by Guest » Sat Nov 03, 2018 11:25 am
Fudge. I have to figure out this multi-quote thing you did now, you did it great, I just haven't used forums in a couple of years, opting for social media instead, so this is gonna be new to me again.
JosieQ wrote:
I believe that the more you allow people to keep what they earn, and the better off they are, the more charitable they become. I seem to recall a study I read in college where it pointed out that when taxes were lowest in United States history, charitable contributions were higher. People like to give when they are given the choice. People obviously do not like to give when forced, because of course that is not giving it is theft.
That's the thing about people who think communism is good. In admitting that, they're also admitting that they think people are garbage who need to be FORCED into caring about other human beings. And if that's the case, if humanity will only help one another at the point of a gun, then we are doomed anyway. If you're gonna force a lion at gunpoint to be a vegetarian, it is against his nature and you will fail, and he will either die or beat you and start eating meat again. You're not going to win that fight by force, you're not going to forcibly change the nature of man.
I don't believe we are inherently monsters though.
I've been poor most of my life and had things taken from me, but rarely ever given. As such, I don't give to charity or panhandlers, because I can't afford to and also I am in a constant state of bitterness from having been constantly stolen from. In the very few times where I've suddenly had some kind of windfall and gained a bit of money so that I actually have some breathing space, I immediately become more giving, and will hand a dollar to a guy on the street with a sign that very day. And it's not even sensible, because I should be saving it, because next week there's a catastrophe and I'm poor again and I really need that dollar.
But I believe human nature is to want to help each other, when we don't feel constantly taken advantage of.
I think that study makes sense. I've never heard that tidbit myself, opting to spend my research project time in college on gay rights and the argument for gay marriage instead. But it makes sense to me now. The more I read and the more I talk to various people in person and on the internet, from all those anecdotal experiences combined I have been mulling about the idea that it would be best to advise people to focus on prospering themselves more, because by having more yourself, and taking care of yourself first, then you can be generous to others. And because you have set yourself up with all the tools, resources, and knowledge to continue to prosper the amount of generosity you can give is multiplied.
I have always believed that giving charity is a virtuous thing, but I've expanded that thinking to add that it doesn't mean spending money on other things is necessarily always a bad thing. When we give to a non-profit organization or a charity organization, most of the time a certain percentage of that is going to the organization worker's paychecks anyway. When we spend money on goods or services, that money goes into the paychecks of the people who who worked on those goods or services. That exchange may not be as virtuous as charity, but it is one that is fair to both parties.
I don't have much either, but I am comfortable, and I don't feel the pressure of being as poor as I was before. Things are getting better. I've noticed that it is a lot harder for those that are on their own, living alone, or they have family but are choosing not to rely on them and being independent. My advice is do find some sense of community to help, whether it is family, friends, social media, a church, a charity organization. If your car breaks down try a rideshare app or carpooling. Find a roommate to split the cost on rent. Or if you really do want to do it alone you're going to have to pull the extra hours at work and budget to save up money to fix the car/ lease a new car.
As for the globalism/agenda 21/agenda 2030 thing yeah I've heard. i think that recent events have shown that they are not very competent or scary people though, just scared wealthy people who have too much distance between us and them to really face the reality of what they are trying to accomplish, or face the death and destruction that they have done so far. I think someday one of them are going to look into the eyes of someone they've condemned to death and see the image of their own child or grandchild and realize, my god, what am i really doing...
They are really more afraid of us than we are of them. Or not of you or me specifically, we're just peaceful civilians. There are probably various groups out there just waiting for them to go too far, so that they, in turn, can go a step further. I don't want that to happen either in our contemporary times, and leave for history yet another slew of war and death. It's just so dumb they are even flirting with that though. People will never submit to the absolute amount of enslavement they propose. Even if they kill all of us off and our ideas, and brainwash the next generation, that next generation is going to look around them and rebel on a massive scale. If they want to suicide, leave the rest of us out of it. Life can be pretty great, pleasurable, fun, and enjoyable when we are not suffering from poverty, and most of us don't even want a vast amount of luxury. There is plenty of extra funds to grab from the scams they already have running, so there is plenty left for them to just peacefully exist upon. But they just won't do that. They didn't even come up with most of it originally. It was a tradition passed down to them from people who aren't even alive today anymore, and they chose to carry on that tradition. I wish that they would in turn rebel against that. Try something new that is not so obviously destructive. They don't have to think of it themselves, with money they could hire the best minds in the world and thinktank it. If they don't rebel, the satisfaction is that in their minds they are not really free. By passing down the plan, their forefathers have enslaved them. They have most of the money in the world, but not as an individual. As a collective group of families that are on edge about each other and keeping each other in check. It's a shame that they can't be truly free, can't be good, and can't be happy. If I could imagine an individual or individuals with all of that money there could be so many creative, fun, and beneficial things they could do with it. Instead they are cogs in a machine their ancestors built for them, forced to turn in one direction forever, because it is the only direction they know.
JosieQ wrote:
Great point. It's always funny to me how my country has always lauded capitalism (until recent years, where it's sliding into socialism on the way to communism), how people en masse will brag that in the US you can be anything, you can do anything, you can work and be rich if you try hard enough! But then they casually and automatically hate anyone with money, and people on news will say facts about something like a person's income in a tone that it's an indicator that being rich means he's somehow a piece of garbage. Always hated that contradiction. XD
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -Ronald Reagan"
I get the impression that it's constantly sliding. I'm in the US too, grew up here, but I was originally from China. I see so many of my fellow Chinese here coming here for freedom, and educational opportunities for their children. Communists in other countries like to criticize China as a bad example of capitalism, but the truth is they ruined what should have been the world's number one superpower, given their population and high average IQ with communism, and then slid some incentives up towards capitalism while retaining as few freedoms as possible. They dialed back the one child policy as recently as 2016, and still retain the right to execute people just for being gay.
The US has a sweet spot of freedom we've been constantly adjusting for the last 200 years and I think it's something really special that the whole world should not want to lose, as an indicator for where to adjust their own freedoms in the future.
JosieQ wrote:
I did not know this and I find it very interesting.
I watched a lot of "Star Trek TNG" as a kid, so there's a utopian society as I envision it. How do we get there though? Well, it's my contention that technology is being artificially held back, in addition to capitalism being artificially tanked, and people being artificially forced into poverty, so basically I think the solution is just to stand back and get out of the goddamn way. We need to overthrow our evil overlords, whose admitted purpose is to reduce the population and widen the gap between rich and poor, with a wealthy elite and a giant, poor underclass. Get rid of them and I think humanity by itself will find its way. How to do that though hmm...
Marx was just a poor person in the industrial era once, not too much different from you and me, just a bit of an idealistic writer and a bit lazy on the work ethic, so he found a way to justify and condense that into his philosophy. What really changed the world for the worse is when Lenin read his book. Lenin, and later Stalin, wanted power. So yeah, even without that tidbit it's pretty open knowledge how precarious communism is, the one effective tool that they've had is the way they teach their students that outsiders to communism just do not understand communism, and therefore their followers stay loyal and don't question it much or invent new thought often to at least progress the theory. How many decades has it been since communism has had a new evolution?
Eh who knows. Maybe it's like that scene from Futurama, where the city builds up into skyscrapers, gets zapped back into the stone age by aliens, builds back up, gets zapped again. We're on computers, tablets, and smartphones while somewhere in the world someone is living and thinking like it's the middle ages. I think a utopian society is a fine ideal to dream of but to get there we have to do it step by step, generation by generation, and it's going to take hard work, labor, and thinking that we are not going to get to any time soon simply because all the conveniences we have today make us want the quick fix rather than the slow and surer path, and that quick fix is going to be the end of us.
We don't lack brilliant people, scientists, inventors, the world is actually swarming with them but big businesses react to them like giant sharks ready to eat them. Some of it might be from shadowy people trying to hold back progress for one motive or another, the rest of it is just the natural jungle of things.
As for getting rid of evil overlords, I'm at a loss there. War, violence, and destruction are not my thing. I'd rather think about them, negotiate with them, offer them deals. Try to get the supervillian to compromise with the superhero instead of having an all-out battle where a lot of innocent people are going to die. After all, if a lot of people die it's what they would have wanted in the first place, and we can't give them the satisfaction of that. I would rather people multiply, reach for the stars, and spread out. Let the new world order die in ineffectiveness against a sea of humanity pulling in endless directions. If things aren't exactly a perfect utopia that's okay. Utopia is a dream we will never truly reach. It doesn't make the dream wrong. Reality is just a messy thing. There can be beauty in that, as well.
JosieQ wrote:
Valid point, and I can be very rational when arguing. But I don't see the point of it when someone's passive-aggressively insulting me, or insulting me outright. I can easily keep my temper when someone with wildly different worldviews doesn't agree with me, if they're civil about it. Because I'm not losing my temper so much as escalating by choice when someone's trying to be a dick as I don't agree with pandering to douchebags. I see people stay calm, and get insulted, and stay calm and debate, and get insulted, and stay calm, and it's just sad. It's like watching someone get slapped repeatedly and pretend its not happening. I'd rather, if you slap me, punch you in the face. To bystanders I look like a crazy, enraged psycho, like omg that reaction didn't fit the circumstances!! But it did. It's infinitely more honest. The hypocrite wanted a fight so why shouldn't I give it to them?
(Except that they don't want the fight I give them, really they didn't want to fight at all but just wanted to cowardly say shitty things to people and get away with it, meh I don't like playing that game.)
By all means do what you like and what will satisfy you then
I didn't think of it like that. To me it seemed like some arguments are just not worth the energy to get upset about. Energy is better spent thinking of a good move, like in a chess match, so that one can make a move that's a better argument. But some people enjoy a good fight, too. When it's nonlethal fight and fair, I have nothing against it.
JosieQ wrote:
That's still me and ohhh I actually DID! ...
(Etc. a bit long so I cut it, I addressed the rest of what you said here in replies above out of order from remembering this part)
Obamacare really only helps people who are either unemployed or working only part-time, or a few specific single mothers who qualify in one way or the other. It puts an undue burden on the rest of the poor who are actually working 2-3 jobs to try to make ends meet and actually makes them unqualified for working too much. It's like... whaaat? What about all of those families Obama himself showcased, they don't even qualify based on the income they bring in. I believe you, and give you the benefit of the doubt that yeah you did things right and that system still screwed you over. I think it was meant to collapse so to cause unrest so that people would theoretically look towards universal healthcare.
The Trump administration wasn't able to dismantle it, but they did pull a few screws loose. Something about forming groups to shop across state. I would take a second look at the marketplace and see if you can't get a better deal around now, just in case. Don't have to commit to anything, just look around.
JosieQ wrote:
This is a fantastic, fantastic thing you've just said. It seems like it should be obvious to people but it isn't. I constantly talk about this hypocrisy, how our society is all about "The children, the children, help the children! Oh what you're 18 today, fuck you got nothin' for you go die now." But when I try to express this, simpletons just take away "Oh so you hate kids." DX
Good post, Guest. Good read. I kinda didn't mean to say so much but you got me babbling. [o~o]
I like to talk so I cause other people to talk when they're in the mood for it.
That's the one thing I thought Obama got but apparently it was just lip service for politics, according to the results, and exploitation of young adults for votes. Extended health coverage for parent's health insurance for their kids up to age 26. Doesn't work out too great for kids without parents or parents without those plans. Worse, when the premiums go up to an unaffordable rate for everyone anyway.
Free, or affordable education for young people. Just that it's going to turn some of them into mindless communist zombies, tantruming babies that need safe spaces, or jaded drinking party animals. Oh, and some of them are going to be taught to literally hate their own parents. I came off it with a mild case of feminist literature, but I've heard horror stories. What I've seen from my peers is no better. I'm becoming increasingly worried for them, how, just how, are all those gender studies going to help them in the real world?
I was really, really, gung-ho about gay marriage. I'm happy now that it's won. I have nothing against the trans, gender fluid, gender neutral, etc. Everyone of all ages is learning a lot about that.
But young people, even those over the age of 18, are supposed to be taught more critical thinking skills, practical job skills, and the tools on how to obtain knowledge so that they can come back from college able to achieve. Instead so many of them are saddled with student loans and working dead end jobs. So many of their classroom hours were spent on lectures about social justice agendas. That means a percentage of what they are paying is towards a cynical political scam. There are exceptions, some schools don't touch on those subjects at all, but some schools or specific teachers are making it a significant portion of their lesson plan when they should be teaching other important subjects.
Whether you are young or old, keep learning, and working, but prioritize your health first. Take care of yourself. Pull those extra hours if you think you could if you are going solo but I would recommend finding some help from some form of community given your health condition instead. I know some successful people pulled themselves out of poverty and became self-sufficient from doing a lot of studying and working many many overtime hours, and that's fine, it was their choice. You can also be smart about it and a little selfish too, rely on some people for some help and hopefully pay them back later or pay it forward when you are in a better situation.
Because the better off you are, the more you'll be able to be generous later. And in that way the world can get just a little bit better.
Fudge. I have to figure out this multi-quote thing you did now, you did it great, I just haven't used forums in a couple of years, opting for social media instead, so this is gonna be new to me again.
[quote="JosieQ"]
I believe that the more you allow people to keep what they earn, and the better off they are, the more charitable they become. I seem to recall a study I read in college where it pointed out that when taxes were lowest in United States history, charitable contributions were higher. People [i]like[/i] to give when they are given the choice. People obviously do [i]not[/i] like to give when forced, because of course that is not giving it is theft.
That's the thing about people who think communism is good. In admitting that, they're also admitting that they think people are garbage who need to be FORCED into caring about other human beings. And if that's the case, if humanity will only help one another at the point of a gun, then we are doomed anyway. If you're gonna force a lion at gunpoint to be a vegetarian, it is against his nature and you will fail, and he will either die or beat you and start eating meat again. You're not going to win that fight by force, you're not going to forcibly change the nature of man.
I don't believe we are inherently monsters though.
I've been poor most of my life and had things taken from me, but rarely ever given. As such, I don't give to charity or panhandlers, because I can't afford to and also I am in a constant state of bitterness from having been constantly stolen from. In the very few times where I've suddenly had some kind of windfall and gained a bit of money so that I actually have some breathing space, I immediately become more giving, and will hand a dollar to a guy on the street with a sign that very day. And it's not even sensible, because I should be saving it, because next week there's a catastrophe and I'm poor again and I really need that dollar.
But I believe human nature is to want to help each other, when we don't feel constantly taken advantage of.[/quote]
I think that study makes sense. I've never heard that tidbit myself, opting to spend my research project time in college on gay rights and the argument for gay marriage instead. But it makes sense to me now. The more I read and the more I talk to various people in person and on the internet, from all those anecdotal experiences combined I have been mulling about the idea that it would be best to advise people to focus on prospering themselves more, because by having more yourself, and taking care of yourself first, then you can be generous to others. And because you have set yourself up with all the tools, resources, and knowledge to continue to prosper the amount of generosity you can give is multiplied.
I have always believed that giving charity is a virtuous thing, but I've expanded that thinking to add that it doesn't mean spending money on other things is necessarily always a bad thing. When we give to a non-profit organization or a charity organization, most of the time a certain percentage of that is going to the organization worker's paychecks anyway. When we spend money on goods or services, that money goes into the paychecks of the people who who worked on those goods or services. That exchange may not be as virtuous as charity, but it is one that is fair to both parties.
I don't have much either, but I am comfortable, and I don't feel the pressure of being as poor as I was before. Things are getting better. I've noticed that it is a lot harder for those that are on their own, living alone, or they have family but are choosing not to rely on them and being independent. My advice is do find some sense of community to help, whether it is family, friends, social media, a church, a charity organization. If your car breaks down try a rideshare app or carpooling. Find a roommate to split the cost on rent. Or if you really do want to do it alone you're going to have to pull the extra hours at work and budget to save up money to fix the car/ lease a new car.
As for the globalism/agenda 21/agenda 2030 thing yeah I've heard. i think that recent events have shown that they are not very competent or scary people though, just scared wealthy people who have too much distance between us and them to really face the reality of what they are trying to accomplish, or face the death and destruction that they have done so far. I think someday one of them are going to look into the eyes of someone they've condemned to death and see the image of their own child or grandchild and realize, my god, what am i really doing...
They are really more afraid of us than we are of them. Or not of you or me specifically, we're just peaceful civilians. There are probably various groups out there just waiting for them to go too far, so that they, in turn, can go a step further. I don't want that to happen either in our contemporary times, and leave for history yet another slew of war and death. It's just so dumb they are even flirting with that though. People will never submit to the absolute amount of enslavement they propose. Even if they kill all of us off and our ideas, and brainwash the next generation, that next generation is going to look around them and rebel on a massive scale. If they want to suicide, leave the rest of us out of it. Life can be pretty great, pleasurable, fun, and enjoyable when we are not suffering from poverty, and most of us don't even want a vast amount of luxury. There is plenty of extra funds to grab from the scams they already have running, so there is plenty left for them to just peacefully exist upon. But they just won't do that. They didn't even come up with most of it originally. It was a tradition passed down to them from people who aren't even alive today anymore, and they chose to carry on that tradition. I wish that they would in turn rebel against that. Try something new that is not so obviously destructive. They don't have to think of it themselves, with money they could hire the best minds in the world and thinktank it. If they don't rebel, the satisfaction is that in their minds they are not really free. By passing down the plan, their forefathers have enslaved them. They have most of the money in the world, but not as an individual. As a collective group of families that are on edge about each other and keeping each other in check. It's a shame that they can't be truly free, can't be good, and can't be happy. If I could imagine an individual or individuals with all of that money there could be so many creative, fun, and beneficial things they could do with it. Instead they are cogs in a machine their ancestors built for them, forced to turn in one direction forever, because it is the only direction they know.
[quote="JosieQ"]
Great point. It's always funny to me how my country has always lauded capitalism (until recent years, where it's sliding into socialism on the way to communism), how people en masse will brag that in the US you can be anything, you can do anything, you can work and be rich if you try hard enough! But then they casually and automatically hate anyone with money, and people on news will say facts about something like a person's income in a tone that it's an indicator that being rich means he's somehow a piece of garbage. Always hated that contradiction. XD[/quote]
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same. -Ronald Reagan"
I get the impression that it's constantly sliding. I'm in the US too, grew up here, but I was originally from China. I see so many of my fellow Chinese here coming here for freedom, and educational opportunities for their children. Communists in other countries like to criticize China as a bad example of capitalism, but the truth is they ruined what should have been the world's number one superpower, given their population and high average IQ with communism, and then slid some incentives up towards capitalism while retaining as few freedoms as possible. They dialed back the one child policy as recently as 2016, and still retain the right to execute people just for being gay.
The US has a sweet spot of freedom we've been constantly adjusting for the last 200 years and I think it's something really special that the whole world should not want to lose, as an indicator for where to adjust their own freedoms in the future.
[quote="JosieQ"]
I did not know this and I find it very interesting. :shock: I watched a lot of "Star Trek TNG" as a kid, so there's a utopian society as I envision it. How do we get there though? Well, it's my contention that technology is being artificially held back, in addition to capitalism being artificially tanked, and people being artificially forced into poverty, so basically I think the solution is just to stand back and get out of the goddamn way. We need to overthrow our evil overlords, whose admitted purpose is to reduce the population and widen the gap between rich and poor, with a wealthy elite and a giant, poor underclass. Get rid of them and I think humanity by itself will find its way. How to do that though hmm...[/quote]
Marx was just a poor person in the industrial era once, not too much different from you and me, just a bit of an idealistic writer and a bit lazy on the work ethic, so he found a way to justify and condense that into his philosophy. What really changed the world for the worse is when Lenin read his book. Lenin, and later Stalin, wanted power. So yeah, even without that tidbit it's pretty open knowledge how precarious communism is, the one effective tool that they've had is the way they teach their students that outsiders to communism just do not understand communism, and therefore their followers stay loyal and don't question it much or invent new thought often to at least progress the theory. How many decades has it been since communism has had a new evolution?
Eh who knows. Maybe it's like that scene from Futurama, where the city builds up into skyscrapers, gets zapped back into the stone age by aliens, builds back up, gets zapped again. We're on computers, tablets, and smartphones while somewhere in the world someone is living and thinking like it's the middle ages. I think a utopian society is a fine ideal to dream of but to get there we have to do it step by step, generation by generation, and it's going to take hard work, labor, and thinking that we are not going to get to any time soon simply because all the conveniences we have today make us want the quick fix rather than the slow and surer path, and that quick fix is going to be the end of us.
We don't lack brilliant people, scientists, inventors, the world is actually swarming with them but big businesses react to them like giant sharks ready to eat them. Some of it might be from shadowy people trying to hold back progress for one motive or another, the rest of it is just the natural jungle of things.
As for getting rid of evil overlords, I'm at a loss there. War, violence, and destruction are not my thing. I'd rather think about them, negotiate with them, offer them deals. Try to get the supervillian to compromise with the superhero instead of having an all-out battle where a lot of innocent people are going to die. After all, if a lot of people die it's what they would have wanted in the first place, and we can't give them the satisfaction of that. I would rather people multiply, reach for the stars, and spread out. Let the new world order die in ineffectiveness against a sea of humanity pulling in endless directions. If things aren't exactly a perfect utopia that's okay. Utopia is a dream we will never truly reach. It doesn't make the dream wrong. Reality is just a messy thing. There can be beauty in that, as well.
[quote="JosieQ"]
Valid point, and I can be very rational when arguing. But I don't see the point of it when someone's passive-aggressively insulting me, or insulting me outright. I can easily keep my temper when someone with wildly different worldviews doesn't agree with me, if they're civil about it. Because I'm not losing my temper so much as escalating by choice when someone's trying to be a dick as I don't agree with pandering to douchebags. I see people stay calm, and get insulted, and stay calm and debate, and get insulted, and stay calm, and it's just sad. It's like watching someone get slapped repeatedly and pretend its not happening. I'd rather, if you slap me, punch you in the face. To bystanders I look like a crazy, enraged psycho, like omg that reaction didn't fit the circumstances!! But it did. It's infinitely more honest. The hypocrite wanted a fight so why shouldn't I give it to them?
(Except that they don't want the fight I give them, really they didn't want to fight at all but just wanted to cowardly say shitty things to people and get away with it, meh I don't like playing that game.)[/quote]
By all means do what you like and what will satisfy you then :P I didn't think of it like that. To me it seemed like some arguments are just not worth the energy to get upset about. Energy is better spent thinking of a good move, like in a chess match, so that one can make a move that's a better argument. But some people enjoy a good fight, too. When it's nonlethal fight and fair, I have nothing against it.
[quote="JosieQ"]
That's still me and ohhh I actually DID! ...
[/quote]
(Etc. a bit long so I cut it, I addressed the rest of what you said here in replies above out of order from remembering this part)
Obamacare really only helps people who are either unemployed or working only part-time, or a few specific single mothers who qualify in one way or the other. It puts an undue burden on the rest of the poor who are actually working 2-3 jobs to try to make ends meet and actually makes them unqualified for working too much. It's like... whaaat? What about all of those families Obama himself showcased, they don't even qualify based on the income they bring in. I believe you, and give you the benefit of the doubt that yeah you did things right and that system still screwed you over. I think it was meant to collapse so to cause unrest so that people would theoretically look towards universal healthcare.
The Trump administration wasn't able to dismantle it, but they did pull a few screws loose. Something about forming groups to shop across state. I would take a second look at the marketplace and see if you can't get a better deal around now, just in case. Don't have to commit to anything, just look around.
[quote="JosieQ"]
This is a fantastic, fantastic thing you've just said. It seems like it should be obvious to people but it isn't. I constantly talk about this hypocrisy, how our society is all about "The children, the children, help the children! Oh what you're 18 today, fuck you got nothin' for you go die now." But when I try to express this, simpletons just take away "Oh so you hate kids." DX
Good post, Guest. Good read. I kinda didn't mean to say so much but you got me babbling. [o~o][/quote]
I like to talk so I cause other people to talk when they're in the mood for it.
That's the one thing I thought Obama got but apparently it was just lip service for politics, according to the results, and exploitation of young adults for votes. Extended health coverage for parent's health insurance for their kids up to age 26. Doesn't work out too great for kids without parents or parents without those plans. Worse, when the premiums go up to an unaffordable rate for everyone anyway.
Free, or affordable education for young people. Just that it's going to turn some of them into mindless communist zombies, tantruming babies that need safe spaces, or jaded drinking party animals. Oh, and some of them are going to be taught to literally hate their own parents. I came off it with a mild case of feminist literature, but I've heard horror stories. What I've seen from my peers is no better. I'm becoming increasingly worried for them, how, just how, are all those gender studies going to help them in the real world?
I was really, really, gung-ho about gay marriage. I'm happy now that it's won. I have nothing against the trans, gender fluid, gender neutral, etc. Everyone of all ages is learning a lot about that.
But young people, even those over the age of 18, are supposed to be taught more critical thinking skills, practical job skills, and the tools on how to obtain knowledge so that they can come back from college able to achieve. Instead so many of them are saddled with student loans and working dead end jobs. So many of their classroom hours were spent on lectures about social justice agendas. That means a percentage of what they are paying is towards a cynical political scam. There are exceptions, some schools don't touch on those subjects at all, but some schools or specific teachers are making it a significant portion of their lesson plan when they should be teaching other important subjects.
Whether you are young or old, keep learning, and working, but prioritize your health first. Take care of yourself. Pull those extra hours if you think you could if you are going solo but I would recommend finding some help from some form of community given your health condition instead. I know some successful people pulled themselves out of poverty and became self-sufficient from doing a lot of studying and working many many overtime hours, and that's fine, it was their choice. You can also be smart about it and a little selfish too, rely on some people for some help and hopefully pay them back later or pay it forward when you are in a better situation.
Because the better off you are, the more you'll be able to be generous later. And in that way the world can get just a little bit better.