[2011-Jun-14] Conversation stopper?

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Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Apocalyptus » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:36 am

Gangler wrote: It still seems to me that going beyond the biological aspect of it and the associated risks and safety precautions would be more than a typical child could take in at once.
Well of course. Sexual education should really be an ongoing process, not just one info dump 'talk'. No one is going to remember everything from one talk on one occasion. Probably starting with the basic biology stuff and then gradually discussing different concepts is a good idea.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Kovvy » Fri Jun 17, 2011 1:08 am

I think the only thing my mom said to me when I was little was that sex should be with someone you love, that you should always be careful, and to tell her if anyone hurt me. And that I could always ask her any questions I had.

The schools and the internet took care of the rest. As well as such books as Gerald's Game. Why was I reading that as a kid? I don't know.

Also, I used to know so many dirty jokes when I didn't really understand what they meant. And now I have forgotten them.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Gangler » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:09 pm

Apocalyptus wrote:
Gangler wrote:I don't think we need to go into kinky stuff in the talk.
You know that really depends on your definition of kinky. I imagine that for some people missionary is kinky. It's not like there's some concrete boundary separating 'kinky' and 'normal', it's pretty much completely culturally determined.
True, true. It still seems to me that going beyond the biological aspect of it and the associated risks and safety precautions would be more than a typical child could take in at once. Of course, it all depends on the kid. This is hardly concrete. If you've got a child who can pay attention for more than an hour then by all means keep going once that hour's done. Nothing to stop you.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by GUTCHUCKER » Thu Jun 16, 2011 4:05 am

Lethal gave the minister some 'ed?

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Apocalyptus » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:45 am

That sounds ever so unhygienic.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by DonRetrasado » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:12 am

Kinky is doing it without the sheet with the hole.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Apocalyptus » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:39 am

Gangler wrote:I don't think we need to go into kinky stuff in the talk.
You know that really depends on your definition of kinky. I imagine that for some people missionary is kinky. It's not like there's some concrete boundary separating 'kinky' and 'normal', it's pretty much completely culturally determined.
Also, you're probably going to want to let your kids know that sex can and does happen between same sex people and even more than two people, so I guess sodomy (the definition of which includes oral sex by the way), kinky or not is going to have to come into it somewhere.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Lethal Interjection » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:02 am

Kaharz wrote:
Kimra wrote:You have sex with Ed?
He said he doesn't remember, so the real question here is did Ed slip Lethal some ruffies or GHB?
Ed's classier than that. He just got me really drunk.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Kaharz » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:58 pm

Kimra wrote:You have sex with Ed?
He said he doesn't remember, so the real question here is did Ed slip Lethal some ruffies or GHB?

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Kimra » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:30 pm

You have sex with Ed?

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Lethal Interjection » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:38 pm

I don't remember when I had sex-Ed in school. I just remember that I happened to be sick for one of the two days. Mostly I was self taught.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Edminster » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:00 am

Gangler wrote:Sodomy? I don't think we need to go into kinky stuff in the talk.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Kaharz » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:57 am

When my brother and I were about ten and eleven we were on a long drive to visit my grandfather with my dad. About half an hour in he attempted to the start the talk. After about fifteen minutes of stammering, stalling, umming and aaahing, we figured out where he was headed. His extreme discomfort clearly recognizable, I piped up that they teach us all about it in school now and he just said, "Thank god" and we spent the remaining two hours of the drive in silence.

I would think it would be best to at least lay down the basics pretty early. Some of the ridiculous stuff I heard when I was a kid could have led to at least great embarrassment if I hadn't been educated otherwise at early age. This was all pre-internet. I don't know if the internet would have made it better or worse, I'm guessing worse in most circumstances. The sex-ed in my schools was not fantastic, but they started with basic human biological reproduction stuff in 5th grade (9 to 10 years old). They didn't really get into the more serious stuff like STDs and family planning until we were 14 or 15 though.

Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Gangler » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:46 am

Personally my parents just told me when it was relevant. Around fifth grade or so, body's are starting to develop, people are getting interested in the opposite sex, that whole shtick. Told me the basics of puberty and sex, gave me a pile of literature to work through and then opened it up for a Q&A period. I don't know where my brother got the knowledge. He might have gotten a talk. He might have pieced it together from conversation. Maybe I told him. I certainly don't think I was secretive about it after I learned, and he was definitely at a curious age.

My sister I honestly can't remember a time when she didn't know about sex. In fact there were multiple occasions during my teenage years when this girl in a single digit age bracket would unnerve me by knowing more than me on the subject. I genuinely don't see knowledge of sexual matters as harmful, and I don't think my parents ever have either. It's really more a matter of when you're comfortable talking to the kid about it tempered by when you think it'll be harmful to the kid not to know.

Sodomy? I don't think we need to go into kinky stuff in the talk. If we took time to go into every fetish and deviation from standard missionary intercourse we'd be here all day, and frankly I think it would be more than a child could effectively retain in a single session anyway. Best to just keep it medical. There's no harm in the kid knowing about these things though. If the child asks what bondage is for example there's no reason to withhold information. It just doesn't need to be in the talk is all. I suppose with sodomy specifically though it could come up naturally if you want to include sexual orientation in the sex talk. At that point it's a purely mechanical concern and could actually prove quite necessary.

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Re: [2011 June 14] Conversation stopper?

by Childish » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:28 am

DonRetrasado wrote:I still wonder how much of a faux pas it is to have an erection in a nudist colony.
Have you ever seen any nudists or been to a nudist colony? Erections would be the least of my worries!

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