[2011-Jul-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

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Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by gavin » Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:05 pm

Eikinkloster wrote:
gavin wrote:Exactly! It's that a person living in mundanity (if I may abuse the word mundane) still has all that going on in their mind. Vivid and raw imagery. If anything, it is uplifting, so I understand Zach's frustration that it is being perceived as only depressing.


What I mean is that Zach's comic does give you the impression that the person *does not* have anything going through their mind as they drone through life like robots. I think it *is* depressing. It only ceases being depressive when it makes you think and (eventually) realize you are not droning through your life. Which is not always true. Many times I do drive to work barely noticing what is going on besides not ramming other cars.

On the other hand, *because* of it, I've been paying more attention on what I see during the day.

I prefer it the way Zach did, without spelling out that it *can* be that way, but doesn't *need* to be. On the other hand, it puzzles me that *he* didn't see it as depressing.
Hmm, interesting. I've gone through days in the past on autopilot, so I understand what it feels like to drone. Such a piece could serve as a wake up call if considered as thoroughly as you have by such a drone. But that would create a sort of paradox, I guess. For a non-thinker to think really hard to get out of non-thinking.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Eikinkloster » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:03 am

gavin wrote:Exactly! It's that a person living in mundanity (if I may abuse the word mundane) still has all that going on in their mind. Vivid and raw imagery. If anything, it is uplifting, so I understand Zach's frustration that it is being perceived as only depressing.


What I mean is that Zach's comic does give you the impression that the person *does not* have anything going through their mind as they drone through life like robots. I think it *is* depressing. It only ceases being depressive when it makes you think and (eventually) realize you are not droning through your life. Which is not always true. Many times I do drive to work barely noticing what is going on besides not ramming other cars.

On the other hand, *because* of it, I've been paying more attention on what I see during the day.

I prefer it the way Zach did, without spelling out that it *can* be that way, but doesn't *need* to be. On the other hand, it puzzles me that *he* didn't see it as depressing.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Apocalyptus » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:44 am

Ah, the delicate constitution of a creative type.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by DonRetrasado » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:48 pm

Artists are so sensitive.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by gavin » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:33 pm

Eikinkloster wrote:Zach twitted this about this comic:

"Huh. People seem to be focusing on the waking part and not the dream in today's comic. It wasn't meant to be depressing :)"

I loved this comic. I think it's an excelent puzzle, and one solution is that Zach chose to draw only the mental images following the dream. I thought of it as I showered in the morning, drove to work and droned over my workstation that there were very vivid mental images following all those experiences too... the countryside while I'm driving, the Grid while I'm coding, and today even the very comic, which I discussed over with a co-worker.

But it still makes me feel that I should party harder.
Exactly! It's that a person living in mundanity (if I may abuse the word mundane) still has all that going on in their mind. Vivid and raw imagery. If anything, it is uplifting, so I understand Zach's frustration that it is being perceived as only depressing.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Eikinkloster » Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:48 am

Zach twitted this about this comic:

"Huh. People seem to be focusing on the waking part and not the dream in today's comic. It wasn't meant to be depressing :)"

I loved this comic. I think it's an excelent puzzle, and one solution is that Zach chose to draw only the mental images following the dream. I thought of it as I showered in the morning, drove to work and droned over my workstation that there were very vivid mental images following all those experiences too... the countryside while I'm driving, the Grid while I'm coding, and today even the very comic, which I discussed over with a co-worker.

But it still makes me feel that I should party harder.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by gavin » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:03 pm

Guest wrote:This. I think complaints about "originality" in art are unbelievably pretentious. It's that line of thought that has brought us shallow shock art like Interior Semiotics. Utterly worthless, even for provoking thought or challenging norms.
That's a great point. "Different" isn't necessarily better or more legitimate.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Sahan » Tue Jul 12, 2011 2:56 am

Yes when living in very humid areas, it certainly does feel a lot better to shower a couple of times to feel properly refreshed, but I don't see why discussion about showers has become such a dominating topic in this thread.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Sappheyes » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:37 pm

Well, if you live in Florida (like I do) in the summer, showers twice a day seem like more of a necessity than an absurdity.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by someoneelse » Mon Jul 11, 2011 7:08 pm

I liked it the way it was originally. I shower twice a day you stinky bastards...

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Oldrac the Chitinous » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:56 pm

RC wrote:this is soooooooo original

oh wait


I have to wonder if this RC is the same as this RC.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by fragilesong » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:41 pm

I think it's very beautiful. I love it.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Kyle H. » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:16 pm

I like it.

So there.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by Guest » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:03 pm

gavin wrote:
RC wrote:this is soooooooo original

oh wait
The number of artists that have paid homage to other styles and even other famous works of art is astounding. You should consider researching Las Meninas, for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Meninas

We're talking about a nearly 400 year old work of art that has been used by Goya, Picasso,and even Jim Henson (yes, the muppets creator). Originality is not the only form of good art. Appropriate homage to other styles/artists are a valuable form of contemporary criticism that may one day be looked at in a different context.


This. I think complaints about "originality" in art are unbelievably pretentious. It's that line of thought that has brought us shallow shock art like Interior Semiotics. Utterly worthless, even for provoking thought or challenging norms.

Re: [2011-07-11] Every Time I Close My Eyes

Post by gavin » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:08 pm

RC wrote:this is soooooooo original

oh wait
The number of artists that have paid homage to other styles and even other famous works of art is astounding. You should consider researching Las Meninas, for example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Las_Meninas

We're talking about a nearly 400 year old work of art that has been used by Goya, Picasso,and even Jim Henson (yes, the muppets creator). Originality is not the only form of good art. Appropriate homage to other styles/artists are a valuable form of contemporary criticism that may one day be looked at in a different context.

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