[2011-Jul-07]- Immortality

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Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Edminster » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:51 am

An artist that does not suggest adding fries to your order is a sellout.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Gangler » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:34 am

An artist who relies on inspiration is slave to a fickle mistress.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Kimra » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:37 am

Good artists create, great artists are inspired!

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by GUTCHUCKER » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:39 am

It is within my power to know when I am right. This is because I am always right, and never wrong like you pathetic mortals are.
In any case, nobody can write anything completely original, so I can't see why there would be any point in discussing it. This is like pulling an individual piece of grass out of a lawn and saying you saw a similar blade in Terry Pratchett's book and he totally copied it from someone else guys, this is serious business.
Good artists create, great artists steal!

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Apocalyptus » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:51 pm

I think Kimra's point is that it's not really within our power to know whether you are right, or they both came up with the joke independently. Which is possible, it's not really a huge logical leap to come up with something like that.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Jesse M. » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:48 am

Kimra wrote:You may think you aren't finding Pratchett the enemy, but each time you have mentioned the situation you have been certain to mention his 'theft' (however inadvertently). Just observing.

Sure, but that's just because that was my original claim ("I think he stole this joke from Woody Allen") and I was defending it against someone who was posting specifically to say I was wrong.
Kimra wrote:However what I was implying, more than to say that your brief search was incorrect, was that perhaps with greater research (not limited to the internet) you might find that Woody Allen is also a thief.

I'm sure that's quite possible, but you're reading something into my post that isn't there if you think I am "for" Woody Allen and "against" Pratchett or something. All I'm doing is defending the original claim that he stole this one joke from Allen, which as I said is really not something I'm condemning him for or even saying he necessarily did it consciously (that's why I linked to the example of George Harrison apparently stealing a melody without realizing he was doing it). I think a lot of comedians do modified versions of jokes they've heard elsewhere, it's not a big deal unless it's done really frequently and without putting their own spin on the jokes.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Kimra » Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:24 am

Oh sh-- someone read something I wrote. That's not how things go man. What are you doing?! Now I have to justify my words, damn.

You may think you aren't finding Pratchett the enemy, but each time you have mentioned the situation you have been certain to mention his 'theft' (however inadvertently). Just observing.

And yes I was being snarky. It's what I do. I'm good at it. However what I was implying, more than to say that your brief search was incorrect, was that perhaps with greater research (not limited to the internet) you might find that Woody Allen is also a thief. Or some other startling revelation might come about.

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Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Jesse M. » Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:12 am

Kimra wrote:You are quite fixated on finding Pratchett the enemy.

No, I'm really not, didn't you read my last post? I already said I couldn't care less if Pratchett stole (perhaps unconsciously) a minor joke from Woody Allen, I just wanted to respond to smiley_cow's post which challenged my statement that the joke came from Woody Allen. From what I know of Pratchett I like the guy, though the only book of his I've read is Good Omens.
Kimra wrote: Though I suppose your internet research is completely unflawed. After all, all information in the history of man is on the internet, so clearly it is infallible.

Now you're just being snarky, and I don't think you even bothered to look at what my "internet research" consisted of before making this comment (all it was was a google books result showing that Woody Allen's joke had been published in a few books from the 70s, before Pratchett's book--do you really want to deny that this is the case?)

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Edminster » Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:03 am

NeoTechni wrote:I don't want to be anything lower than human, that'd be horrible.

Hitchhiker's Guide wrote:For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much - the wheel, New York, wars and so on - whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man - for precisely the same reasons.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Kimra » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:49 am

I'm pretty sure my cats life is way better than mine. She gets to laze around all day, lie in the sun, gets food, and when she's bored kills a few things. Surely that is a superior being.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by smiley_cow » Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:47 pm

I dunno, I think I'd enjoy being a puppy that lives in a good home. It's short life, but it seems like a good one.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Gangler » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:39 am

NeoTechni wrote:Then there's reincarnation. I don't want to be anything lower than human, that'd be horrible.

Isn't the idea that you'd live your life well and get to continue being a human or better? Like maybe a wealthier human or some kind of superior space alien? Hyper-intelligent dog with thumbs? The possibility of a lower than human life form would be kind of like the possibility of going to hell. Not really the goal.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by NeoTechni » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:17 am

Kaharz wrote:The idea of non-existence does not bother me, because I won't exist so it won't matter. I'm only apprehensive about things I can actually experience. The idea of an afterlife of some sort in which I am conscious and aware is more disturbing to me.

Agreed, the idea of an afterlife scares the crap out of me.

An eternity of floating around, nothing to do, no food, no sex, no internet, no video games, no sleep. Just talking with my exes. If I'm lucky I get to be with my current sig.other, but won't being together drive us mad?

Then there's reincarnation. I don't want to be anything lower than human, that'd be horrible.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Kimra » Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:35 am

I didn't say it would be successful.

Re: [July 7 2011]- Immortality

Post by Gangler » Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:19 am

Not so immortal now are ya Pratchet?

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