[2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

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Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Phssthpok » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:23 pm

Sean wrote:http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2353

The thing about Einstein getting the idea for relativity by picturing an elevator...when I read that I tried to find a source where Einstein himself talks about that. I can't find anything.

Can someone quote Einstein saying this (and source the quote)?

Thx
Einstein didn't use the word "elevator". He referred to "a spacious chest resembling a room", to which "is fixed externally a hook with rope attached", which "a being ... begins pulling ... with a constant force". i.e., an elevator. This is in Relativity: The Special and General Theory, Chapter 20, "The Equality of Inertial and Gravitational Mass as an Argument for the General Postulate of Relativity".

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by GUTCHUCKER » Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:33 am

So much blatant lies in this thread.

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Kaharz » Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:59 pm

Kimra wrote:But who made the time traveling phone booth analogy? That's the fundamental question.
Glaxos III of Antares station alpha, Mendel Quarter, in the year 6793 or 1920. Depending on your position in the time-space continuum.

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Kimra » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:52 am

But who made the time traveling phone booth analogy? That's the fundamental question.

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Kaharz » Sat Sep 03, 2011 2:50 pm

wait, I thought it was Xeno who used the train analogy and Galileo used an accelerating jet plane.

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Oldrac the Chitinous » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:22 pm

In fact, Galileio made use of a train analogy in his explanation, too.

It didn't make much sense to people at the time, so the Church locked him up.

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Kaharz » Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:12 am

I assume Einstein got the idea of relativity from Galileo, since he was the first one recorded as proposing the basic principle of relativity.

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Quintushalls » Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:25 am

This is absolutely true [citation needed]. I read it in some book which gave this example and related it to walking towards and away from a mirror. The concept is that you don't see your nose earlier than your eyes, even though your nose is directly in front of you. Even though the elevator was moving away, it appeared at the same time to his eyes and someone standing closer. This gave him the idea that space and time are relative to each other. On a side note, Einstein does not believe time travel is possible. Related, Super String theory was just debunked making it official. Slowing aging on the other hand, is totally accurate. I'm actually 150 years old and I look 25 [citation needed].

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Kimra » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:22 am

Zach would never write something that isn't 100% accurate. Clearly Guest Sean isn't looking hard enough on the internet.

Re: [2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Eisbreaker » Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:34 pm

I think, in this comic, "they say" refers to the voices in Zach's head.

[2011-Aug-30] Origin of Einstein elevator analogy story?

by Sean » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:23 am

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2353

The thing about Einstein getting the idea for relativity by picturing an elevator...when I read that I tried to find a source where Einstein himself talks about that. I can't find anything.

Can someone quote Einstein saying this (and source the quote)?

Thx

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