by Guest » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:10 am
StCredZero wrote:Endplanets wrote:Superman saves a randy from falling to his death, and then goes home to his middle class apartment like a pleeb and pays his parking tickets on time like the rest of us. Now that's a hero.
One of the editors of Dr. Dobb's Journal once confessed to this. He was doing a programming contract for city government, but the paperwork was fouled up, and he didn't get his city exemption to park on the street, so he could park on the street. As it so happened he was working on the system that issued the parking tickets, so he just deleted his tickets and coded himself an exemption.
He didn't necessarily pay his parking tickets on time. Is he a real-life superhero with a real life superpower?
Nope. Dude broke the law by illegal altering ticketing system. Extremely mild, but criminal. And morally his actions benefiting himself without hurting or helping society renders it neutral morally. And for sure not heroic.
Now if you want to get extremely, super nerdily, ultra deep into morality systems he did a very mild villainous act by refusing to fight a problem in society (paperwork getting fouled up) because it didn't bother him due to his unique circumstances means that the others who have the problem will continue to suffer due to him not fighting it. The easiest way to explain what I just said is to use the example
{the government discriminates against minority X but I am not in that minority so I don't notice so I don't fight it so the system never changes so minorities keep getting discriminated against}
{health care is expensive, but I am rich so I don't notice so I don't fight it, so heath care stays expensive which is bad}
Superman saves the world but doesn't let it go to his head so when he gets a parking ticket he pays it because he thinks himself equal to the everyday pleeb. And if his parking ticket was unfair due to botched paperwork but had an easy out he would heroically refuse that easy out and fight to change the corrupt system so that the other everyday pleebs don't get screwed over too. You know, on a really slow crime week where he wasn't stopping giant talking gorillas or wasn't busy being dead or something.
[quote="StCredZero"][quote="Endplanets"]Superman saves a randy from falling to his death, and then goes home to his middle class apartment like a pleeb and pays his parking tickets on time like the rest of us. Now that's a hero.[/quote]
One of the editors of Dr. Dobb's Journal once confessed to this. He was doing a programming contract for city government, but the paperwork was fouled up, and he didn't get his city exemption to park on the street, so he could park on the street. As it so happened he was working on the system that issued the parking tickets, so he just deleted his tickets and coded himself an exemption.
He didn't necessarily pay his parking tickets on time. Is he a real-life superhero with a real life superpower?[/quote]
Nope. Dude broke the law by illegal altering ticketing system. Extremely mild, but criminal. And morally his actions benefiting himself without hurting or helping society renders it neutral morally. And for sure not heroic.
Now if you want to get extremely, super nerdily, ultra deep into morality systems he did a very mild villainous act by refusing to fight a problem in society (paperwork getting fouled up) because it didn't bother him due to his unique circumstances means that the others who have the problem will continue to suffer due to him not fighting it. The easiest way to explain what I just said is to use the example
{the government discriminates against minority X but I am not in that minority so I don't notice so I don't fight it so the system never changes so minorities keep getting discriminated against}
{health care is expensive, but I am rich so I don't notice so I don't fight it, so heath care stays expensive which is bad}
Superman saves the world but doesn't let it go to his head so when he gets a parking ticket he pays it because he thinks himself equal to the everyday pleeb. And if his parking ticket was unfair due to botched paperwork but had an easy out he would heroically refuse that easy out and fight to change the corrupt system so that the other everyday pleebs don't get screwed over too. You know, on a really slow crime week where he wasn't stopping giant talking gorillas or wasn't busy being dead or something.