[2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

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Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by AlixeTiir » Sat Sep 07, 2019 1:31 pm

Robert Carnegie wrote:
Edminster wrote:
Me or Ma Self? wrote:PS: I don't get the "What is the nerdiest possible thing you could name your child?" either.


It's what Zach named his child, after Ada Lovelace and Marie Curie.


I used Google, it appears to have taken me back to 2015. :-)

First I thought you meant me, strange question and quite personal. I considered James Tiberius... then since my surname is Carnegie I offered "Melon". (Yeah.) nope, so then I thought about reading 1000 comics starting with recent ones to find one about hereditary nerdhood... that's a nope from me.

Jocelyn Bell Burnell is a smart lady. Equivalent to "Jocelyn No Nobel Burnell". Two nos cancel.

Rosalind Franklin.


You guys are too smart for me

When I was signing up I tried fuckin' shit like "Yoda" and "Leia" and "Jean Luc"

I had to google what the question meant and google said "it's his daughter's name you stupid fuck" and then I wasn't able to get in because I wrote "Ada Weinersmith".

sigh

obviously, I eventually figured out the "Ada Marie" thing.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Robert Carnegie » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:32 pm

Edminster wrote:
Me or Ma Self? wrote:PS: I don't get the "What is the nerdiest possible thing you could name your child?" either.


It's what Zach named his child, after Ada Lovelace and Marie Curie.


I used Google, it appears to have taken me back to 2015. :-)

First I thought you meant me, strange question and quite personal. I considered James Tiberius... then since my surname is Carnegie I offered "Melon". (Yeah.) nope, so then I thought about reading 1000 comics starting with recent ones to find one about hereditary nerdhood... that's a nope from me.

Jocelyn Bell Burnell is a smart lady. Equivalent to "Jocelyn No Nobel Burnell". Two nos cancel.

Rosalind Franklin.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Tar » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:45 am

Me or Ma Self? wrote:PS: I don't get the "What is the nerdiest possible thing you could name your child?" either.



Pissed that "Optimus Non-composite" was rejected.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by GUTCHUCKER » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:40 pm

Bard wrote:Also, on topic: I also thought the joke was a little cramped - I scratched my head and wondered. (Which is a thing I've been doing for years while studying philosophy - self, reality, ethics, fundamental physics, linguistics, all surrounded with lame student jokes...it should have prepared me well enough for this joke)

Studying philosophy is great. At the end of your degree, you can use it to get a job teaching more people philosophy. Isn't it magical?

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Bard » Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:36 am

Thisfox wrote:
Edminster wrote:
Thisfox wrote:..Also, I don't see how Ada or Marie are nerdy names, but hey, that's a matter of opinion.


I'm a teacher. I know many many girls called Ada and Marie. They're normal. The nerdiest name I've encountered so far? Hazchem. He's a lovely lad, but his parents have a lot to answer for. I also have taught kids called Yacht, Rainbow, and River. In different schools, with different parents. Ada and Marie? Tame.
Perhaps I do think too oddly.


I think we have a troll here Edminster. Clearly ignoring why Ada Marie would be nerdy and instead going for "in general they are normal names" displays a lack of intelligence which a teacher couldn't (or shouldn't?) have.'

Also, on topic: I also thought the joke was a little cramped - I scratched my head and wondered. (Which is a thing I've been doing for years while studying philosophy - self, reality, ethics, fundamental physics, linguistics, all surrounded with lame student jokes...it should have prepared me well enough for this joke)

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by nerd » Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:38 pm

The joke is not that difficult to get. From the way she talks, the priests knows that she doesn't understand what "preserving herself" means in this context, so he explains it means her virginity. Then, she misunderstands that as "self" being a general euphemism for the word "virginity". Then, it suggests you that every time a person says a sentence including "self", you should mentally replace all of those instances with the word "virginity", because that's hilarious.

Have I made myself clear?

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by jtgibson » Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:25 am

Heh... six posts discussing the comic, nine discussing Ada Marie. =P

Back on topic, I didn't get the misunderstanding either; I thought the persistence thing was somehow the joke in itself (which I really didn't get), and didn't make the mental connection for the wink wink nudge nudge about her not following the proper rules for "saving" oneself. That meant that I had no idea what the priest would have whispered to her, which made the hover text equally incomprehensible to me. =)

Now that I *get* it, it's amusing, but one of the most obscure jokes I've seen in ages...

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by a1s » Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:41 pm

Edminster wrote:
Thisfox wrote:Honestly, how was I meant to know that the creator of the comic even HAD a child, let alone what her name was? Isn't that a bit of a violation of his privacy? Was I meant to webstalk the poor man? ...Also, I don't see how Ada or Marie are nerdy names, but hey, that's a matter of opinion.


By checking his wikipedia page, which lists it in the big infobox thing. You can also find the answer in the FAQ which is the first topic in this subforum, because it is a question people frequently ask. It is intended as a barrier that requires rudimentary lateral thinking skills to overcome, which I find to be significantly more effective at weeding out spambots than more traditional countermeasures. By way of a for instance, when we were using CAPTCHAs the human:spam ratio was about 2:1, and it was a nuisance going through every registration only to delete a third of them.

I figured I had the question difficulty calibrated correctly because alongside actual people we still get a spambot registration from time to time, but apparently there is a minority of people who genuinely wish to discuss the comic but are not as cognitively resourceful as literal unthinking pieces of code. I will go ahead and make sure my email address is listed in the FAQ from now on, though.

Also, you know, it's easy to look up.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Thisfox » Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:01 am

Edminster wrote:
Thisfox wrote:Honestly, how was I meant to know that the creator of the comic even HAD a child, let alone what her name was? Isn't that a bit of a violation of his privacy? Was I meant to webstalk the poor man? ...Also, I don't see how Ada or Marie are nerdy names, but hey, that's a matter of opinion.


By checking his wikipedia page, which lists it in the big infobox thing. You can also find the answer in the FAQ which is the first topic in this subforum, because it is a question people frequently ask........


Ah. Whoops. I tried the wikipedia article for SMBC and tried various combinations of names on that wikipedia site last year sometime, I remember idly thinking it was the most likely solution. I think I'd seen a cryptic article somewhere where it said the answer was on Wikipedia. But not that I needed to check on the authors Wikipedia entry, unfortunately. I did email the Author that I had evidently lost the intelligence test. He, fairly enough, had no idea how I might go about it, and pointed out it wasn't his job, which was right enough... Sigh.

I'm a teacher. I know many many girls called Ada and Marie. They're normal. The nerdiest name I've encountered so far? Hazchem. He's a lovely lad, but his parents have a lot to answer for. I also have taught kids called Yacht, Rainbow, and River. In different schools, with different parents. Ada and Marie? Tame.

I simply decided you were a closed colony who didn't want other people to try to join. I decided it was pointless to keep on trying, but this particular comic was so incomprehensible to me that I had to check the comments to work out if my deciphering was right or wrong. It was wrong, by the way: I thought the (priest?) man with the glasses had said that men like necrophillia or something.

Perhaps I do think too oddly.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Edminster » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:05 am

Thisfox wrote:Honestly, how was I meant to know that the creator of the comic even HAD a child, let alone what her name was? Isn't that a bit of a violation of his privacy? Was I meant to webstalk the poor man? ...Also, I don't see how Ada or Marie are nerdy names, but hey, that's a matter of opinion.


By checking his wikipedia page, which lists it in the big infobox thing. You can also find the answer in the FAQ which is the first topic in this subforum, because it is a question people frequently ask. It is intended as a barrier that requires rudimentary lateral thinking skills to overcome, which I find to be significantly more effective at weeding out spambots than more traditional countermeasures. By way of a for instance, when we were using CAPTCHAs the human:spam ratio was about 2:1, and it was a nuisance going through every registration only to delete a third of them.

I figured I had the question difficulty calibrated correctly because alongside actual people we still get a spambot registration from time to time, but apparently there is a minority of people who genuinely wish to discuss the comic but are not as cognitively resourceful as literal unthinking pieces of code. I will go ahead and make sure my email address is listed in the FAQ from now on, though.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Lethal Interjection » Thu Jun 11, 2015 12:00 am

Liriodendron_fagotti wrote:It is honestly not.


That is a glorious story. Because it is humorously boring and also wonderfully progressive and kind-of subversive. I love it.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Liriodendron_fagotti » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:41 pm

It is honestly not.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Lethal Interjection » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:20 pm

Liriodendron_fagotti wrote:In full disclosure, for my name if I'd been a girl, my parents chose "Emma" by flipping to the contributing authors in the then-latest edition of Manual of the Vascular Flora of the Carolinas and Virginia.

I honestly can't tell if that's sarcasm.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Thisfox » Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:58 pm

Thankyou for that. I've been wondering for a year as to what this secret "nerdiest" code was, unable to work it out. I even gave in one day, and emailed the creator of the comic, and he didn't tell me a thing. All this time, I was told to "talk to a moderator" and yet couldn't get the email or contact details of a moderator until I registered..... :roll:

Now I can join in on these discussions! Excellent!

Honestly, how was I meant to know that the creator of the comic even HAD a child, let alone what her name was? Isn't that a bit of a violation of his privacy? Was I meant to webstalk the poor man? ...Also, I don't see how Ada or Marie are nerdy names, but hey, that's a matter of opinion.

Re: [2015-6-9] - The meaning of self?

Post by Liriodendron_fagotti » Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:34 pm

Man that really bugged me. Talking about forced. Like parents naming their son "Albert Isaac _____". Recognizing female scientists is great, but Lovelace and Curie are like the only two that an average person might recognize. Zach even did a comic about over-representation of Marie Curie when discussing female scientists. It's also crazy pretentious and laying a lot on the kid.

In full disclosure, for my name if I'd been a girl, my parents chose "Emma" by flipping to the contributing authors in the then-latest edition of Manual of the Vascular Flora of the Carolinas and Virginia.

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