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Re: Death Penalty

Postby smiley_cow » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:36 am

That was poorly phrased. No, I know people who don't understand the difference between a fertilized and an unfertilized egg. They don't see why it's OK to eat an egg that in there mind is one day going to become a chicken, but not a chicken itself. So I explain to them that an egg is like a chicken period and they will lay them whether they're fertilized or not.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby Lethal Interjection » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:38 am

LordRetard wrote:They won't eat anything that has/had male sex organs.

Homophobe.
wolf wrote:Truth of the matter is I'm anti-killing*.

So I don't actually have to worry about you coming to my house and making me into a coat?

As for the euthanasia thing, I'm not entirely sure where I stand. At what point is someone considered worth euthanizing?
Are we talking strictly of vegetables? Personally I understand and can somewhat condone it from the Schaivo* case and similar situations.
But are we talking about mercy killing, too?
But even the Schaivo thing is difficult for me. In about 1999 my uncle was doing construction and fell off the beam, about 1-2 stories, and smacked his head on the concrete. He was in a coma for 3 months. And then just came out of it, which was a huge miracle, even to the doctors. He has brain damage, but mild-ish. He functions well, and is really just a slower version of his old self. He gets frustrated because he can't quite do things as well as he could, but he lives a mostly normal life (he couldn't do construction, or run the farm himself, but his wife does the stuff he can't anymore, and together they run it well). So, at what point does the potential for continued life stop?

*At work we are currently having a contest to see who can work Terry Schaivo into conversation the most in a given day. Mostly in politically incorrect jokes, of course. It is particularly funny because it is so topical!
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby Edminster » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:42 am

Lethal Interjection wrote:
wolf wrote:Truth of the matter is I'm anti-killing*.

So I don't actually have to worry about you coming to my house and making me into a coat?

Since when has anti-killing equated to anti-flensing?
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby mountainmage » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:42 am

Some of these are pretty terrible/amazing. I find it odd that the 3rd suggested search when you type in "Terry Sc" is "Terry Schiavo jokes"
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby wolf » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:11 am

Lethal Interjection wrote:So I don't actually have to worry about you coming to my house and making me into a coat?


No you have to worry, I would think of it as euthanizing you. You know, putting you out of your misery. It's a service, the human skin coat is just a little reward for a job well done. A girl has to treat herself.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby smiley_cow » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:48 pm

Lethal Interjection wrote:
As for the euthanasia thing, I'm not entirely sure where I stand. At what point is someone considered worth euthanizing?
Are we talking strictly of vegetables? Personally I understand and can somewhat condone it from the Schaivo* case and similar situations.
But are we talking about mercy killing, too?
But even the Schaivo thing is difficult for me. In about 1999 my uncle was doing construction and fell off the beam, about 1-2 stories, and smacked his head on the concrete. He was in a coma for 3 months. And then just came out of it, which was a huge miracle, even to the doctors. He has brain damage, but mild-ish. He functions well, and is really just a slower version of his old self. He gets frustrated because he can't quite do things as well as he could, but he lives a mostly normal life (he couldn't do construction, or run the farm himself, but his wife does the stuff he can't anymore, and together they run it well). So, at what point does the potential for continued life stop?


I would say when someone has a terminal illness with absolutely no hope of recovery and they are pretty much doomed to a slow death anyways. Instead of having to wait out the next few months or however long for all your organs to finally shut down.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby wolf » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:19 pm

smiley_cow wrote:
I would say when someone has a terminal illness with absolutely no hope of recovery and they are pretty much doomed to a slow death anyways. Instead of having to wait out the next few months or however long for all your organs to finally shut down.



For me life should be about quality not quantity. I mean if I'm going to be a vegetable, having machines do all the work for me that's not living. I'm also one of those people that if I have cancer that requires aggressive treatment (ie chemo) I'm refusing that treatment*. Promise me fellow Canadians if that happens you'll smother me with a pillow.

*I have a real problem with modern medicine. I just wanted everyone to know that.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby AHMETxRock » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:23 pm

We've been going over this alot in philosophy. I'd hate to let my college degree go even more to waste then it will be!

It depends which school of thought you prescribe to. You really can identify roughly what ethics policy you follow. Wolf's ideaology isn't all that rare, it is shared with alot of people. Utilitarian ethics would take the 80 year old man who can't live without the machine off in order to save a few people that could only survive if they had access to it. I'm being general, but it's not uncommon.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby astasia » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:23 pm

wolf wrote:Is astasia the typical "lesbian" vegan?


"I" "am" a "lesbian" "vegetarian."
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby wolf » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:44 pm

Lesbian is in quotes because I'm 99% sure you said you're bisexual and the stereotype is all vegans are lesbians (even the males) not bisexual. Quotes were needed.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby astasia » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:51 pm

Well, now I feel like a bitch.

Yeah, technically, I'm bisexual.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby Cirtur » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:57 pm

Technically? Come on Little John, I guess we can masturbate to her pictures now.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby astasia » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:05 pm

Cirtur wrote:Technically? Come on Little John, I guess we can masturbate to her pictures now.


You call him Little John? I hope it's in the ironic sense, like in Robin Hood.

Technically, as in, I've had sex with menfolk and find them physically attractive.
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Re: Death Penalty

Postby Cirtur » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:14 pm

What was the one thing Little John was famous for being? Nah, I'm not letting you guys answer that. I am going to come out and say it.




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Re: Death Penalty

Postby astasia » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:26 pm

Big in comparison to what?
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