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Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:35 pm
by smiley_cow
AHMETxRock wrote:Even if you disagree, can you at least see my reasoning is not based on sexism?
I never thought you were sexist. I just think feminism tends to be demonized by the media which often leads to people misunderstanding it.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:06 pm
by AHMETxRock
No, I agree that the demonization is horrible. But I also think the majority of the demonization is sexist.
When the war in Iraq first started I opposed it. It was obvious that Saddam had no involvement with 9/11 and that it was a scapegoat. It was obvious that it both used the anti-Muslim sentiment as well as propagated it further in order to contemplate the masses that demanded blood. It was an attack against an innocent civilian population with an asshole regime in charge.
Most of America hated the war in Iraq because of debt, or dead soldier relatives, or the fact they aren't winning. These are good reasons to oppose any war, but these are not the right reasons. Same thing.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:18 pm
by LordRetard
Hey Ahmet, I don't really like feminism either but at very least the idea is equality. When people put their priorities on the wrong thing, that's a problem. When we get into affirmative-action style situations that's when the problem comes in. The reasonable feminists generally aren't sexist and at that point their name is just convenience.
AHMETxRock wrote:Most of America hated the war in Iraq because of debt, or dead soldier relatives, or the fact they aren't winning. These are good reasons to oppose any war, but these are not the right reasons. Same thing.
Why aren't they the right reasons to support a war? You have your own priorities. People are dying all over the world but when we're at home it's about money. For many Americans you could commit genocide in Iraq and it wouldn't even touch their minds.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:27 pm
by AHMETxRock
I'm not so quick to say that it wasn't genocide in Iraq. Only recently has it come to light that the security forces we had were fairly liberal in who they killed, and only a few cases are allowed to breach the public. The government that has no problem attacking people who are innocent is bad. Just because it isn't you now does not mean it won't be you. It can be your own ass dude, so you should care.
If Americans allow such douche bag-ish behavior to go on, then they are guilty for other countries coming to kill them.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:35 pm
by LordRetard
AHMETxRock wrote:I'm not so quick to say that it wasn't genocide in Iraq. Only recently has it come to light that the security forces we had were fairly liberal in who they killed, and only a few cases are allowed to breach the public. The government that has no problem attacking people who are innocent is bad. Just because it isn't you now does not mean it won't be you. It can be your own ass dude, so you should care.
If Americans allow such douche bag-ish behavior to go on, then they are guilty for other countries coming to kill them.
Well doesn't that support what I said? It might be genocide but no one cares over here. Things just happen and it's costing us money.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:42 pm
by mountainmage
LordRetard wrote:For many Americans you could commit genocide in Iraq and it wouldn't even touch their minds.
I call bullshit on that.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:42 pm
by LordRetard
Really? Ahmet seems to think that it's happening right now.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:44 pm
by Cirtur
And this forum is know for being incredibly serious about genocide. We don't joke around about stuff like that.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:46 pm
by mountainmage
LordRetard wrote:Really? Ahmet seems to think that it's happening right now.
One person's opinion does not equal a nation-wide fact.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:47 pm
by LordRetard
Then neither does yours. Is this a joke?

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:49 pm
by Cirtur
Not unless it's Ahmet!

Fact-five


fact o/

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:50 pm
by mountainmage
I never said I was right, merely that I was disputing what you said.

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:51 pm
by LordRetard
And I merely stated that Ahmet disagreed with you. Where on earth are you going with this?

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:54 pm
by mountainmage
That neither of us are completely right?

Re: Gays have literally destroyed the institution of marriage.

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:55 pm
by LordRetard
So your plan all along was to present an argument, and prove that it was not correct. That can't possibly be what you mean.