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Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:13 pm
by Cirtur
Wooooooo
We win we win!

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:19 pm
by AHMETxRock
Cirtur wrote:[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10483841.stm]Wooooooo
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We win we win!

A winner is you.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:55 pm
by LordRetard
This system is in use some places already, if I recall correctly, though I don't know where.

Even though it sounds very silly, it's quite clever.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:09 am
by Lethal Interjection
You haven't won yet. It still needs to be ratified.

I like the idea of that one, though. It is like a "runoff" election without having to turn out multiple times (which is why "runoff" would never work in most countries).
Though it seems like a hell of a lot of counting for the pollsters.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:05 am
by Sahan
This is how voting is always done over here. I didn't realise we had a different system from the UK going on until now.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:19 am
by Cirtur
Lethal Interjection wrote:You haven't won yet. It still needs to be ratified.


Yes, but ratified by the public. Who's gonna vote against it?

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:24 am
by LordRetard
Old people.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 8:45 am
by Sahan
Fear of change is a genuine fear, it affects all people who are too stupid or too lazy to decide for themselves whether or not the change will do any good.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:46 pm
by Lethal Interjection
Cirtur wrote:
Lethal Interjection wrote:You haven't won yet. It still needs to be ratified.


Yes, but ratified by the public. Who's gonna vote against it?


A lot of people.

1. There are those afraid of change (as Sahan said).
2. Those who haven't bothered to read any information on it, and thus don't know that it is better.
3. Those who don't understand it.
4. Old people (as LR said).
5. Immigrants.*

Electoral changes only occur when a) something big happens to a country and forces a major re-look, i.e. post-WW2 Germany and France, and b) the campaign for the change is REALLY well funded. The problem is that no acting government is willing to throw a significant chunk of money behind such an initiative, as the old system was what gave them power in the first place. Which puts it into the hands of lobbyists and the like, who tend to rely on sponsors, but it really isn't enough either.

Now this isn't really proven, but as we have had this fail time and again in Ontario and Canadia, and this is my understanding of why it isn't working.

*Not all, but the fact that many people come from places with much less democratic countries, they are simply content with the democracy they know. It is already better than what they had, they just don't realize that they can still have it better yet. Plus language barrier combined with #2 and #3 can be a huge issue as well.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:27 pm
by Cirtur
Well I think this will be my first vote and I feel good about that being it.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:45 pm
by Frostbite
Old people are the bane of the world.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:46 pm
by Lethal Interjection
Frostbite wrote:Old people are the bane of the world.


Also young people.

Re: Ohohoho Yessiree!

PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:19 pm
by Frostbite
Also just...people. What a bunch of bastards.