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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby Cirtur » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:25 am

Laws? Pah, I'll ignore the law and they'll ignore me.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby mountainmage » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:52 am

I fought the law...well, you can guess how it ended.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby Cirtur » Thu Dec 24, 2009 11:16 am

Seriously though the police in my country are incompetent.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby mountainmage » Thu Dec 24, 2009 6:09 pm

Do they still not carry around guns? Because that stereotype is adorable.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby Cirtur » Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:32 pm

Well they've got tasers and stuff.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby mountainmage » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:52 am

In America, we tase you for no reason whatsoever. Because we can.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby smiley_cow » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:41 am

Here in Canadia there are currently a number of cases going through of people suing police/RCMP officers for using tasers. And of course the whole Dziekański inquiry that's still ongoing.

Long story short, tasers are not well liked up here.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby mountainmage » Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:55 am

I believe that tasers are useful less-lethal instruments, but that police restraint concerning them is often lax.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby smiley_cow » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:08 am

I think I agree with that. But it only works if the tasers are to be used either as a last resort or instead of something potentially lethal like a gun. Using them liberally is ridiculous, especially since they do cause death in rare cases.

Also, the links as usual don't work for me. But I'm assuming you linked to two sequences on the Colbert Report where he pointed out a law enforcement officer using a taser in a completely inappropriate situation, like the soccer mom who asked not to be tasered in front of her children?
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby mountainmage » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:17 am

Right. Police need to know that there's a proper time to tase someone, and there's an improper time.

It's as you said. The links are about cases of totally unwarranted taserings. One of them was a man who rushed into his burning house to warn the people in his basement. When he came out, he was tasered by police, allegedly for misconduct during an emergency. Another one is the one you mentioned with the soccer mom.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby LordRetard » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:48 am

Uhh there have been NO cases of police tasers causing death! All of the people who have died after being tasered have suffered from "excited delirium", a condition that just suddenly appears sometime with no cause and leads to instant death. It is only a coincidence that it only happens when a cop tasers someone.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby mountainmage » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:56 am

Yeah, I read that on the wiki page too.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby LordRetard » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:07 am

Ah, well I heard about it on the news a lot when Dziekański got killed.

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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby mountainmage » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:09 am

If Canadia's justice system is anything like America's, then probably.*



*Not that I don't believe in the American justice system for the most part, but no system is perfect.
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Re: OMG GUISE

Postby smiley_cow » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:16 am

Just for fun I thought I'd look up excited delirium. Apparently it's really highly debated in psychiatric circles. It's also not a recognized mental disorder and it's not even listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders of the American Psychiatric Association.* Delirium however seems to be real, it's marked by confusion and agitation and can be triggered by drugs or predisposed medical conditions, but it's uncommon for people suffering from it to suddenly die, in fact this never happens to patients being treated in hospitals.

Personally I'm not buying it. It just seems a bit convenient and the science community doesn't seem to be backing it.

*The psychiatrist's handbook that CBC decided to quote
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