Transformers 2

[LordRetard]

When it comes to movie opinions, I only trust those with which I agree with.

Well if you don't like Princess Bride then pretty much no one must agree with you.

[Cirtur]

Having not seen the Princess Bride, I do not like it, having a neutral opinion on it.

[mountainmage]

When it comes to movie opinions, I only trust those with which I agree with.

Well if you don't like Princess Bride then pretty much no one must agree with you.

On that particular movie, maybe. But who cares about other people's opinions when it comes to movies? If you dislike/like it, then it doesn't matter what the next person thinks.

[Kimra]

When it comes to movie opinions, I only trust those with which I agree with.

Well if you don't like Princess Bride then pretty much no one must agree with you.

On that particular movie, maybe. But who cares about other people's opinions when it comes to movies? If you dislike/like it, then it doesn't matter what the next person thinks.

Agreed. And with the power of not caring what other people think I have managed convert many people to some of the worst (but best) movies in the universe.

[LordRetard]

Well of course you don't have to agree with anyone, and who does? But my thought is always "whose recommendations can you trust?" Luckily I realised that one group of my friends likes a lot of bad movies (didn't like the Shining. Buh!) and one group of my friends likes a lot of good movies. So I normally know whose opinion I can trust.

[Lethal Interjection]

Well of course you don't have to agree with anyone, and who does? But my thought is always "whose recommendations can you trust?" Luckily I realised that one group of my friends likes a lot of bad movies (didn't like the Shining. Buh!) and one group of my friends likes a lot of good movies. So I normally know whose opinion I can trust.

I think that is why most of my friends trust me. Because we have similar tastes, mostly.

[Phoenix]

Well, getting reviews from someone with tastes that differ from your own is the fastest way to shoot yourself in the foot when it comes to whether or not to watch a movie based on it's reviews.

I for one, can't stand shows like "dancing with the stars", but love movies LOVED transformers. I rarely agree with movie critics, so I tend to ignore their reviews as much as possible, and try to remind people that their reviews aren't the be-all end-all of movie reviews, and to watch movies themselves and make their own opinions. You should decide whether or not to watch a movie based on it's subject, and your interest in it (or lack thereof), and not based on whether other people liked it or not. Exceptions to this would be close friends or relatives who have similar tastes, and you have agreed with in the past.

[Kimra]

Well, getting reviews from someone with tastes that differ from your own is the fastest way to shoot yourself in the foot when it comes to whether or not to watch a movie based on it's reviews.

I for one, can't stand shows like "dancing with the stars", but love movies LOVED transformers. I rarely agree with movie critics, so I tend to ignore their reviews as much as possible, and try to remind people that their reviews aren't the be-all end-all of movie reviews, and to watch movies themselves and make their own opinions. You should decide whether or not to watch a movie based on it's subject, and your interest in it (or lack thereof), and not based on whether other people liked it or not. Exceptions to this would be close friends or relatives who have similar tastes, and you have agreed with in the past.

Sorry, I feel the need to correct what may be a misconception. I loath Dancing with the Stars. It's up there with Big Brother. When my brother made the suggestion I watch Transformers 2 only during Dancing with the Stars add breaks he was saying 'if you have the choice between something that is so crap that it's not worth considering on the best of days, and Transformers 2, watch that one you wouldn't watch on the worst of days'.

[Apocalyptus]

I thought it was ok, especially if you're into heaps of CGI action and Megan Fox's boobs jiggling. Still, it is possible for movies to have good action, sexy people, AND a thought provoking/interesting story, and Transformers 2 didn't quite make it up there.

[GreenCrayon]

Transformers 2 was a fetid abortion of a movie*. I went in with medium-to-high expectations, and was let down on every level, except for wanting to watch gigantic robots fight (which it provided me with).

When a movie isn't a comedy, it's hard to justify 90% of the characters being a parody of themselves. Among bizarre racial stereotyping and a bad cast (sorry, Megan Fox, I didn't mean you --- you're lovely) with poorly scripted sex jokes suitable only for those between the ages of 10 and 14 was a plethora of plot holes that Optimus Prime could have, if he had chosen**, driven through.

I wasn't expecting good or thoughtful plot, I really wasn't. But, how ill-fated are the Witwickys to end up at every dangerous location around the globe, just in time for the giant robots to be a potentially lethal threat to them? Why were so many concepts introduced, then promptly forgotten? So very much of that film seemed to be done to a quota ("We need another scene with people in!") and that quota wasn't really very good to begin with ("Can we fit in just one more Jar-Jar character?").

Jetfire was ace though. I forgive him having an inexplicable beard, because he reminded me of Alan Moore.

*Wow, sorry about that.
**I firmly believe Optimus Prime can do almost anything he puts his mind to. Except beating Samus.

[Sahan]

Indeed, he was quite a fun character, but even he was just perpetuating the old fogey robotic plane stereotype, rather than being a character of his own.

[Lethal Interjection]

You should decide whether or not to watch a movie based on it's subject, and your interest in it (or lack thereof), and not based on whether other people liked it or not. Exceptions to this would be close friends or relatives who have similar tastes, and you have agreed with in the past.

There are movies I have very little interest in, but I can't really say of any movie that I have no interest. I'm just too interested in film in general to say "I will never watch this movie". With many it would have to be the perfect storm of events for me to watch it (nothing else at all to do, a woman who I dig dragged me, etc.) but in a place like Flixster, I can't honestly click "Not interested" because it means to me that I would never see the movie.

[Kimra]

You should decide whether or not to watch a movie based on it's subject, and your interest in it (or lack thereof), and not based on whether other people liked it or not. Exceptions to this would be close friends or relatives who have similar tastes, and you have agreed with in the past.

There are movies I have very little interest in, but I can't really say of any movie that I have no interest. I'm just too interested in film in general to say "I will never watch this movie". With many it would have to be the perfect storm of events for me to watch it (nothing else at all to do, a woman who I dig dragged me, etc.) but in a place like Flixster, I can't honestly click "Not interested" because it means to me that I would never see the movie.

"Not interested", to me, means that I'm not going out of my way to see it. So for example at the cinemas right now are the movies Hannah Montana and Ice Age 3, both of which I am 'not interested' in seeing, but if someone handed me a free ticket to see them I'd go. Only movie I have ever been against and that I would go out of my way not to see is "Chopper" and that only because the man it's based makes money from it, and I am not giving him money. Ever.

[Lethal Interjection]

"Not interested", to me, means that I'm not going out of my way to see it. So for example at the cinemas right now are the movies Hannah Montana and Ice Age 3, both of which I am 'not interested' in seeing, but if someone handed me a free ticket to see them I'd go. Only movie I have ever been against and that I would go out of my way not to see is "Chopper" and that only because the man it's based makes money from it, and I am not giving him money. Ever.

I guess I just want to hear a reason why someone wouldn't be interested. Just clicking "Not Interested" on a movie review site just strikes me as a little judgemental. Maybe it is just because one of my friends went through a list of 2000+ movies and either rated them, or clicked "Want to see" or "Not interested". It just seemed a little off-hand in the way he did it, and I was a little surprised that he would judge some of these movies based on likely no real information other than a short summary.
But I don't think I'm making my point very well here. I'm unable to explain myself properly enough for my liking.

[Kimra]

I'm unable to explain myself properly enough for my liking.

This sounds like my life in general.

However. You do make sense. Or at least, it makes sense to me. I've refuse to hate on principle, so I watch things and then I hate them. At least it's informed hatred then. So arbitrarily saying 'I'm not interested'... I can see how this may bother some people. On the other hand, if I spent my whole life explaining why I don't want to see something... well no-one actually cares and it would take a lot of my life. But I do see the value of seeing before judging. Even with my brothers opinion of Transformers and the two movie review programs I trust saying similar things I will not pass it by if I have an opportunity to see it.