Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare
Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:25 am
zbbrox, The single-payer health insurance system will not be enough to solve all our problems. There are not enough doctors/ambulances/hospitals to cover those millions of people with actual health care even if they do technically get insured. If lower-middle class are not being discussed here, I would also like to discuss.
"They can't afford insurance that costs more than rent, they'll have to choose between closing up shop or simply going without" - from the "healthcare" smbc comic.
"These aren't borderline shut-in artists like us. They're the guy who runs that used book store or the lady who planned your wedding" - 2nd to last panel
The claim in the comic is that it costs these people now $31,200 a year, which is $2600 a month, compared to the previous 13,000 a year, 1000 a month. For a 60k a year household that is half of their income. For a 90k a year household that would be a little more than a third. Consider that they are running small businesses, and yeah, it becomes a choice between having healthcare, $30,000, cost of living $24,000, and running a small business, which varies, but could be around $30,000 . You can only have 2 of the 3, and losing your small business means losing that income in the first place, losing the cost of living is not gonna happen. Their only choice is to skip out on the health insurance and find other ways.
I am not concerned first and foremost with people like Zach and friends, I am not in the same class, the same race, the same state, or the same part of the political spectrum as them. But even in the comic they speak not out of concern for themselves but out of concern for others, they claim to be able to get by fine either way. The "shame, shame, shame" attitude is not helping anyone and I would like to find a helpful solution with a rational discussion.
"They can't afford insurance that costs more than rent, they'll have to choose between closing up shop or simply going without" - from the "healthcare" smbc comic.
"These aren't borderline shut-in artists like us. They're the guy who runs that used book store or the lady who planned your wedding" - 2nd to last panel
The claim in the comic is that it costs these people now $31,200 a year, which is $2600 a month, compared to the previous 13,000 a year, 1000 a month. For a 60k a year household that is half of their income. For a 90k a year household that would be a little more than a third. Consider that they are running small businesses, and yeah, it becomes a choice between having healthcare, $30,000, cost of living $24,000, and running a small business, which varies, but could be around $30,000 . You can only have 2 of the 3, and losing your small business means losing that income in the first place, losing the cost of living is not gonna happen. Their only choice is to skip out on the health insurance and find other ways.
I am not concerned first and foremost with people like Zach and friends, I am not in the same class, the same race, the same state, or the same part of the political spectrum as them. But even in the comic they speak not out of concern for themselves but out of concern for others, they claim to be able to get by fine either way. The "shame, shame, shame" attitude is not helping anyone and I would like to find a helpful solution with a rational discussion.