[2011-May-23] zach is unoriginal

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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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I just mean it's gettin' a bit old, happenin' a bit too often!
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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It's not fresh or exciting anymore.
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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We... we already discussed that one.
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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Kaharz wrote:Look at him, just standing there with a can of gasoline and a match...

I imagine both comics were inspired by the same not so difficult to make observation. Most people think they are unique and superior to the majority of other people.
So... only a minority (such as yourself) know they aren't unique and superior to the majority of the other people.
Then again, wouldn't that make you unique and superior to the majority of the other people?

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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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No I am in the majority. I know I am not unique or superior to most people while at the same time I often believe I am unique and superior. Humans don't operate logically. People can be, and often are, both insecure and falsely confident.
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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Cognitive dissonance!
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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Apocalyptus wrote:Cognitive dissonance!


I solve all my cognitive dissonance problems by bribing myself. Induced compliance is super effective. It is much easier than actually trying to sort it out mentally.
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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Kaharz wrote:No I am in the majority. I know I am not unique or superior to most people while at the same time I often believe I am unique and superior. Humans don't operate logically. People can be, and often are, both insecure and falsely confident.
In my experience most people are empathizers, they derive their sense of cognitive equilibrium a lot more from being in tune with the majority than from the internal coherence the ideas; which is how systemizers do it. So most people probably *don't* feel most other people feel isolated from the crowd and wishing the crowd were more introspective. In fact, most people identify introspection as a defect to be corrected.

XKCD and SMBC is nerdcentric, and nerds are systemizers. The scenario in this comic only begins to make sense in such a context in which people can have an intuitive grasp of what a systemizer majority could be. Ironically, it seems to work because most nerds can't take this extra step and notice the comic is a troll.

So the real scenario in a crowd of (XKCD and SMBC) nerds would be a bunch of people thinking "LOL, I bet there are a lot of people here thinking they are the only ones who are really self aware" and only one thinking "damn nerds, unaware that they are in fact the only ones that are self aware".

Solipsism probably only really comes with this "self awareness of the second order".
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Eikinkloster wrote:Ignorance is bliss.
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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Eikinkloster wrote:
Kaharz wrote:No I am in the majority. I know I am not unique or superior to most people while at the same time I often believe I am unique and superior. Humans don't operate logically. People can be, and often are, both insecure and falsely confident.
In my experience most people are empathizers, they derive their sense of cognitive equilibrium a lot more from being in tune with the majority than from the internal coherence the ideas; which is how systemizers do it. So most people probably *don't* feel most other people feel isolated from the crowd and wishing the crowd were more introspective. In fact, most people identify introspection as a defect to be corrected.

XKCD and SMBC is nerdcentric, and nerds are systemizers. The scenario in this comic only begins to make sense in such a context in which people can have an intuitive grasp of what a systemizer majority could be. Ironically, it seems to work because most nerds can't take this extra step and notice the comic is a troll.

So the real scenario in a crowd of (XKCD and SMBC) nerds would be a bunch of people thinking "LOL, I bet there are a lot of people here thinking they are the only ones who are really self aware" and only one thinking "damn nerds, unaware that they are in fact the only ones that are self aware".

Solipsism probably only really comes with this "self awareness of the second order".
Ignorance is bliss.
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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He's just saying shit, ignore him.
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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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DonRetrasado wrote:He's just saying shit, ignore him.
And this is the price of being actually unique.

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Re: zach is unoriginal [2011-May-23]

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Lots of people are actually unique. You're not, you're just a pain.
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