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Re: (7-13-11) I'm keeping it warm with my face!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:04 am
by Edminster
Gangler wrote:I'm entirely in agreement with Luthor on that one.
You've never read All-Star Superman, have you? It pretty handily refutes this.

Re: (7-13-11) I'm keeping it warm with my face!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:30 pm
by Gangler
Edminster wrote: You've never read All-Star Superman, have you?
I have not. Truth be told I actually just pick up a superman comic once in a while when I see something's going on with Lex. Not really a fan of the rest of all that.

Re: (7-13-11) I'm keeping it warm with my face!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:18 pm
by Yep
Edminster wrote:
Gangler wrote:I'm entirely in agreement with Luthor on that one.
You've never read All-Star Superman, have you? It pretty handily refutes this.
How so?

Re: (7-13-11) I'm keeping it warm with my face!

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:02 am
by NumberFourtyThree
When you factor in how the way technology uses energy is in most cases never 100% efficient, any laser powered by Superman's arms cranking a generator will be less powerful than Superman's punch. That laser isn't going to defeat Darkseid.

Re: (7-13-11) I'm keeping it warm with my face!

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:43 am
by Gangler
NumberFourtyThree wrote:When you factor in how the way technology uses energy is in most cases never 100% efficient, any laser powered by Superman's arms cranking a generator will be less powerful than Superman's punch. That laser isn't going to defeat Darkseid.
Well not with one shot no. We're not talking about a 1 on 1 fight though. We're talking about a war. The thousand nations of the earthian empire would descend upon him. Our lasers would blot out the sun.

Plus keep in mind the applications of energy in combat aren't limited to lasers. We could have all manner of cutting and shooting devices. Plus while the energy use would be less efficient, the laser could use more energy and focus it on a smaller point creating a much more destructive shot than superman's punch.

Plus unlike superman, the generator would be capable of protecting all of earth at once. While superman can only be in one place at a time the generator would arm every human soldier with cutting edge weaponry capable of defending against darkseid's mighty armies.

Then we factor in energy storage. All the excess energy that superman provides during peaceful years would presumably be kept in batteries for when it was needed.

As a whole the generator would be a much more versatile tool than superman himself is. We could tailor it to our needs at the moment. There'd be no reason for the generator to rely on simple head to head 1 on 1 brute force in the battle against darkseid. The notions of going punch for punch with darkseid doesn't really exist with the generator, though I suppose if we desperately wanted to we could use it to fuel a power suit which would require more energy to do the same as superman but perhaps utilize it in more clever ways than his alien physiology and waste less on things not needed for combat and give it to an actual combat expert rather than a farmboy, and then I guess we could supercharge it with some of those peace batteries if it still wasn't up to the task. Though why you'd want to put all your eggs in one basket like that is beyond me.

Edit: I also feel the need to point out that force isn't even necessarily needed to defeat darkseid. Need I point out that in The Justice League Unlimited Lex Luthor defeated Darkseid using only his wit? Well wit and an alien with deus ex machina running through his veins willing to teleport Luthor to the edge of the universe, but mostly wit.