[2011-Aug-17] Parroting

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[2011-Aug-17] Parroting

Postby Edminster » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:21 am

http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=2340

I... I laughed at an SMBC comic.

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all those years of hatred have been wasted

gone

down the drain

forever gone












until the next comic is posted and it is again a lengthy diatribe about how nerds are superior to the duckspeaking proles
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby DonRetrasado » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:29 am

See, I didn't laugh. You built it up too much and I was scorin' for disappointment.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Kimra » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:29 am

It's okay Ed, we still love you.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Quintushalls » Wed Aug 17, 2011 9:48 am

Via http://www.eparrots.biz/talk.html

This is very much possible. An African Grey parrot can hold 2000 words in its vocabulary.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby GUTCHUCKER » Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:21 pm

Zach is mocking philosophers. That does not make this viewpoint valid, nor does it reflect on our ability to think.
We can use our vocabulary outside of the immediate context and in the absence of a context. This is a fundamental difference.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Soliloquy » Wed Aug 17, 2011 1:35 pm

Honestly, I can't think of any way this viewpoint could be considered valid, outside of Zach's obsession with the idea that there is no truth.

GUTCHUCKER wrote:Zach is mocking philosophers. That does not make this viewpoint valid, nor does it reflect on our ability to think.
We can use our vocabulary outside of the immediate context and in the absence of a context. This is a fundamental difference.


I dunno if that's what zach intended. Because in just about every other comic in which Zach says [group x] are no longer allowed [to perform action y], the group in question is making a legitimate point.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Gangler » Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:21 pm

I thought it was taking a purely nurture stance. Parrot makes the sounds that get positively reinforced the same way some sociological schools of thought would paint us as being 100% programmed by our environment. One could also paint similarities between the notion of human intelligence as an evolutionary characteristic originally just meant to aid in survival but now given applications beyond that and the parrot's ability to speak being used in new ways within the domestic context. Either that or just a generic poke at the "Unintelligent masses" who just regurgitate the phrases and ideas that pop culture keeps throwing at them with the implication that just because they speak doesn't mean they think.

I really do find these types of discussions to be a little silly though. People will list off the ways fauna X is intelligent and resembles humans and this and that and come at me with the "How can you think their lives are any less sacred than a human's?"

I'm all like "Woah woah woah, when did I start talking about human life like that was sacred? Show me an orangutang that can hygienically make me an expresso and I'll start advocating their need for rights. You know, once we've got all the shit that's actually relevant to my country taken care of."

I sometimes wonder about those animal activists. There's something up with them.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby ChaoticBrain » Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:53 pm

What is it with parrots in fiction always starting and ending their phrases with a squawk? Real parrots don't do that, so where did this trope even come from, and why is it still so annoyingly popular?
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Gangler » Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:01 pm

It came from your mom. She's a successful cinematographer who's responsible for much of what has entered the public consciousness.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Oldrac the Chitinous » Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:34 pm

Maybe the parrot thinks he's in boot camp, and squawking is parrot for "sir".
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Lethal Interjection » Wed Aug 17, 2011 7:55 pm

ChaoticBrain wrote:What is it with parrots in fiction always starting and ending their phrases with a squawk? Real parrots don't do that, so where did this trope even come from, and why is it still so annoyingly popular?


I think it is probably the way they take the anthropomorphization out of the context. A bird that simply talks could be a cartoon. A bird that squaks first, valid or not, comes off as just a stupid real bird that knows a few words.
This could be incorrect, but it was my first thought.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby GUTCHUCKER » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:41 am

It's probably all of the points above, also he is actually reading the forum and he's fucking with us.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Quintushalls » Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:58 am

Every commenter here is a parrot except you! RAAHHHK!
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby Martin The Mess » Thu Aug 18, 2011 3:08 am

At my college, the Economics department had a pet parrot as a mascot. It was trained to reply to pretty much anything anyone said to it with "Awwk! Supply and Demand! Awwk!"

Given that "supply and demand" is pretty much your average Econ 101 prof's answer to any Econ-related question containing the word "why", I'm surprised the Parrot didn't have tenure.
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Re: Parroting [17 Aug 2011]

Postby danielgudman » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:45 am

So was that other parrot from the Creative Writing Program?
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