[2013-Jan-25] Chimps

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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Kimra » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:58 am

noone wrote:Plants, on the other hand, are not sentient.


BUT some people think plants are. Just as some think animals are not. So... Fruitism (or whatever it's called) is the right choice.
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby nobody » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:13 am

Eat the plants' CHILDREN? THAT'S THE ETHICAL DECISION?!
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Kimra » Tue Jan 29, 2013 2:58 pm

nobody wrote:Eat the plants' CHILDREN? THAT'S THE ETHICAL DECISION?!


Yes. Eating children is always acceptable.
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Edminster » Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:17 pm

When you think about it all, it's just a modest proposal that is worth taking a look at.
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby GUTCHUCKER » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:05 pm

After all, a young healthy child well nursed is at a year old a most delicious, nourishing, and wholesome food, whether stewed, roasted, baked, or boiled, and I make no doubt that it will equally serve in a fricassee or a ragout.
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby nobody » Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:38 pm

You guys are DISGUSTING! I'm going to continue impoverishing the people of ireland instead of listening to you FREAKS and PERVERTS!
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Peon » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:03 pm

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Peon wrote:How is becoming a vegetarian making an ethical choice? Plants are just as alive as animals.


Vegetarians make their choice based on sentience, or the capacity that animals have to 'experience' pain. Plants, on the other hand, are not sentient.

So where does sentience end? I assume you believe dogs are sentient based upon your definition. Are crabs or insects sentient? I'm pretty sure fish feel pain, although I've heard the claim that they do not. I've heard the same for dogs, and now I'm hearing it for plants. What makes you think we won't learn something about plant biology that suggests that plants do experience sensations?

Fruitarianism isn't good enough. Here's the only ethical choice for those that aren't OK with hurting sentient beings: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
Ask the next question.
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby nobody » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:33 pm

Solar Power!
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Lethal Interjection » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:00 pm

Kimra wrote:Fruitarianism the real ethical choice.


That is almost angering me. That is so stupid. Ever so much worst than vegan.
Because by that logic, they should be able to eat eggs and milk (provided the animal is cared for in whatever way they deem fair). And ultimately they should be able to eat anything that's already dead (you know, provided its fresh).
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Kimra » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:06 am

Lethal Interjection wrote:
Kimra wrote:Fruitarianism the real ethical choice.


That is almost angering me. That is so stupid. Ever so much worst than vegan.
Because by that logic, they should be able to eat eggs and milk (provided the animal is cared for in whatever way they deem fair). And ultimately they should be able to eat anything that's already dead (you know, provided its fresh).


Some people and religions take it to the extreme and will only eat the fruit that has fallen from the trees. They consider picking the fruit wrong.
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby GUTCHUCKER » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:47 am

I believe even stupid organisms feel both pain and anguish. Fortunately I'm not a fucking bleeding heart, so I don't care.
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby nobody » Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:12 am

You guys are the most callous people alive! whoops almost forgot, it's that time of the month again

gotta go feed my child labourers makin' iphones
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Sahan » Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:58 am

When is a vegetable considered dead? When it's rotting? When the plant has withered away? We can always check the pulse of any animal with blood, but how you would you know with a plant until it's well and truly past its prime?
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby nobody » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:51 pm

when the other plants are burying it in a little plant coffin
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Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps

Postby Sahan » Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:00 pm

Plants don't bury their friends, they don't even offer words of comfort as they photosynthesise their last molecule of glucose. They just leave them to die. That's why I have no remorse when vegetables appear in the shopping basket, because those cold bastards deserve their death.
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