Re: 2013-01-25 Chimps
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 6:25 pm
I was walking down the street and someone threw a can of green paint at me and screamed "COTTON IS MURDER"
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I don't think my thoughts equate perfectly with reality. I have no idea what reality is. But yes, my outlook is small and you are extremely arrogant.GUTCHUCKER wrote:Also, Kaharz, I get the idea that you think that your thoughts equate perfectly with reality. Machines should not be required to 'surpass' us because they use a different thought process. There are people who are trying to mimic human thought process - there are also people who are making neural nets out of rats, and people who build AIs off of logic. Your outlook is small! I am extremely arrogant and self-assured as a result.
DonRetrasado wrote:I was walking down the street and someone threw a can of green paint at me and screamed "COTTON IS MURDER"
XFDnobody wrote:what street lol
i been throwing paint all day
They're not intelligent, but they taste like crap either way, so let them be.Edminster wrote:Drunk you also totally missed the part about how we don't see barnacles and oysters as intelligent either.
You... want me to shoot a tree? ... I'm okay with this!Lethal Interjection wrote:Can't we all just agree todisagreeshoot everything in whatever most closely represents the organism's face and then eat said organism?
Yes. Shoot a tree in it's smug little 'look at all my lovely leaves' face.Kimra wrote:You... want me to shoot a tree? ... I'm okay with this!Lethal Interjection wrote:Can't we all just agree todisagreeshoot everything in whatever most closely represents the organism's face and then eat said organism?
Actually, pea plants at the very least have been observed remembering and using information they remember to benefit them. "Dancing" plants also have the ability to dance better as they get more practice.GUTCHUCKER wrote:I'd have to say that any meaningful intelligence (which anyone would give a fuck about) is something where the organism remembers, considers, uses it, makes mistakes, makes actions which do not benefit or detriment it, and profits from it in some form. Plants have not been observed doing any of that.
Except it all boils down to how you define death. If I was able to keep your body functional after chopping off your head, would you really still consider yourself to be alive? Of course not. Everything that you were, everything that you knew, would all be gone. The same holds true with plants. When they cut off the root cap, it causes serious changes to how the plant's roots grow. It's like cutting out the part of your body that deals with controlling your right hand.GUTCHUCKER wrote:I know that many plants can survive after their 'brain' (let's call thousands of possible-root-processors a brain, which is also stupid enough to force me to commit suicide) is removed, and regrow it. That makes me not give a shit how much it has suffered, or what kind of thought process (for nonsapients, lit.: complex reactions to sensory input) it uses.
looks like machines have already reached the pinnacle of human intelligencePeon wrote:We should place the goalposts for intelligence past what humanity has attained. That way we have something to strive toward with machines.