[2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

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[2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby koreiryuu » Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:44 pm

http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3481

"Schrödinger's Cat" is not an idea that, until observed, the cat is both alive and dead; that is what Neil Bohr and Werner Heisenberg suggested in their early quantum theories: that EVERYTHING exists in more than one state simultaneously, and will not exist in one state until observed (or something like that, I'm paraphrasing).
Schrödinger used the cat/box situation to express that their theory doesn't make sense on a macro scale.
He's saying that.. to believe the cat is both alive and dead until observed is fucking stupid. It's obviously dead.

That's why those t-shirts that said "Schrödinger's Cat is dead" on them were so popular ten years ago.

I choose to believe Zach knows this, but chose to express it specifically that way because it would be easier, since that's what many people believe anyway :F

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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby alx3m » Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:37 pm

The point is that you don't know if the cat is dead or not.
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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby Kaharz » Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:13 am

alx3m wrote:The point is that you don't know if the cat is dead or not.


If you leave it in the box long enough you'll have a pretty good guess...
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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby tyano » Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:07 am

I choose to believe Zach knows this, but chose to express it specifically that way because it would be easier, since that's what many people believe anyway :F


He did an earlier comic on this where he gives a more correct interpretation of Schrodinger's Cat so that's probably the case.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2524
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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby CarpeDM » Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:32 am

Schrödingers Cat is a dog.
Seriously. Every particle in the box occupies every potential state it can, and some subset of those configurations are going to coincide with what puny mortals call "Dog".
Also Cheese, Wallpaper, Uranium and Robohitler.

I really don't get what the problem is with the idea of unobserved particles occupying multiple mutually-exclusive states.
If you roll a d20, what number does it give before it hits the table?
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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby GUTCHUCKER » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:16 pm

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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby CarpeDM » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:25 am

Oh my...

Excuse me, I have a thesis to write...
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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Postby GUTCHUCKER » Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:59 am

Did I guess right then??
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