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[2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 4:44 pm
by koreiryuu
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=3481

"Schrödinger's Cat" is not an idea that, until observed, the cat is both alive and dead; that is what Neil Bohr and Werner Heisenberg suggested in their early quantum theories: that EVERYTHING exists in more than one state simultaneously, and will not exist in one state until observed (or something like that, I'm paraphrasing).
Schrödinger used the cat/box situation to express that their theory doesn't make sense on a macro scale.
He's saying that.. to believe the cat is both alive and dead until observed is fucking stupid. It's obviously dead.

That's why those t-shirts that said "Schrödinger's Cat is dead" on them were so popular ten years ago.

I choose to believe Zach knows this, but chose to express it specifically that way because it would be easier, since that's what many people believe anyway :F

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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 5:37 pm
by alx3m
The point is that you don't know if the cat is dead or not.

Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 2:13 am
by Kaharz
alx3m wrote:The point is that you don't know if the cat is dead or not.
If you leave it in the box long enough you'll have a pretty good guess...

Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 6:07 am
by tyano
I choose to believe Zach knows this, but chose to express it specifically that way because it would be easier, since that's what many people believe anyway :F
He did an earlier comic on this where he gives a more correct interpretation of Schrodinger's Cat so that's probably the case.
http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2524

Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 9:32 am
by CarpeDM
Schrödingers Cat is a dog.
Seriously. Every particle in the box occupies every potential state it can, and some subset of those configurations are going to coincide with what puny mortals call "Dog".
Also Cheese, Wallpaper, Uranium and Robohitler.

I really don't get what the problem is with the idea of unobserved particles occupying multiple mutually-exclusive states.
If you roll a d20, what number does it give before it hits the table?

Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:16 pm
by GUTCHUCKER
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Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:25 am
by CarpeDM
Oh my...

Excuse me, I have a thesis to write...

Re: [2014-11-15] That is not what Schrödinger meant

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:59 am
by GUTCHUCKER
Did I guess right then??