[2015-6-16] Seneca

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[2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby Gradivus » Thu Jun 18, 2015 2:00 pm

Non vitae, sed mortī dicimus.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby a1s » Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:08 am

"Decimate the dead, not the living" should be the tagline of "Walking Dead: Rome". Well, that or "non omnis moriar".
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby Gradivus » Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:50 am

It's a pun, dagnabit! (dicimus/discimus)

No decimation involved: the verb is dico, to speak (dicimus = we are speaking). Vitae and morti are dative of purpose, as in the original Seneca quote non vitae, sed scholae discimus. (Not for life, but for school are we studying.)

*Sigh.* Pliny the Elder would understand, if he read this comic.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby a1s » Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:15 am

Boy, did this go over my head like a satellite. I was just making a lowly I-recognize-the-roots-but-not-the-words joke.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby dangerkeith300 » Tue Jul 14, 2015 5:23 pm

I didn't get the pun either. I don't even think dicimus and discimus sound that much alike.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby Gradivus » Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:09 pm

dangerkeith300 wrote:I don't even think dicimus and discimus sound that much alike.

You're probably thinking in English phonics, which generally gives the letter C an "s" sound after "i". In classical Latin, the letter C always has a hard "k" pronunciation. Cicero (pronounced "kikero") and Tacitus (pronounced "takitus") would get it.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby dangerkeith300 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:35 pm

Gradivus wrote:
dangerkeith300 wrote:I don't even think dicimus and discimus sound that much alike.

You're probably thinking in English phonics, which generally gives the letter C an "s" sound after "i". In classical Latin, the letter C always has a hard "k" pronunciation. Cicero (pronounced "kikero") and Tacitus (pronounced "takitus") would get it.


When I made my first post I was thinking in classical Latin. Dicimus and discimus don't sound the same because discimus has the "k" sound in it and the other doesn't. They only look similar; one having an extra letter.

It would be more of a homophone with English/French/Spanish/etc phonetics. Not Classical. So I am confused by your reply.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby a1s » Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:17 am

I can't really make a decent joke out of it, but someone here must: The word for speaking in Latin is "dico" (pronounced "dick-uh".) So... I don't know, the joke should be Romans are always dicks when they talk to you (because, read a history book, they totally were. That or bad-ass, until about the 2-3rd century AD.)
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby Gradivus » Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:39 pm

dangerkeith300 wrote:When I made my first post I was thinking in classical Latin. Dicimus and discimus don't sound the same because discimus has the "k" sound in it and the other doesn't. They only look similar; one having an extra letter.

Once again, in classical Latin the letter C always had a hard "k" pronunciation. It's the "k" sound in both words. Di-ki-mus. Dis-ki-mus. You may be thinking in Vulgate or "Church" (Medieval) Latin.

a1s wrote:The word for speaking in Latin is "dico" (pronounced "dick-uh".)

More like dee-ko.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby Kaharz » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:34 pm

I have a vewy gweat fwiend in Wome called 'Biggus Dickus.'
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby dangerkeith300 » Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:55 pm

dangerkeith300 wrote:When I made my first post I was thinking in classical Latin. Dicimus and discimus don't sound the same because discimus has the "k" sound in it and the other doesn't. They only look similar; one having an extra letter.


Gradivus wrote:Once again, in classical Latin the letter C always had a hard "k" pronunciation. It's the "k" sound in both words. Di-ki-mus. Dis-ki-mus. You may be thinking in Vulgate or "Church" (Medieval) Latin.



I see why you think I think that about the letter "c", which I don't: I wrote above that one had the "k" sound and the other doesn't. I meant the "s" sound. The pun doesn't work, to me, because of the S. (Unless it is silent in Classical Latin???) Anywho, this is turning into one of the geekiest threads ever and not in a good way.
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Re: [2015-6-16] Seneca

Postby a1s » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:06 pm

dangerkeith300 wrote:
dangerkeith300 wrote:When I made my first post I was thinking in classical Latin. Dicimus and discimus don't sound the same because discimus has the "k" sound in it and the other doesn't. They only look similar; one having an extra letter.


Gradivus wrote:Once again, in classical Latin the letter C always had a hard "k" pronunciation. It's the "k" sound in both words. Di-ki-mus. Dis-ki-mus. You may be thinking in Vulgate or "Church" (Medieval) Latin.



I see why you think I think that about the letter "c", which I don't: I wrote above that one had the "k" sound and the other doesn't. I meant the "s" sound. The pun doesn't work, to me, because of the S.

It's not that precise of a pun. It's more on the level of "Dawn of the Bread" and "If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal".
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