Twilight

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I dunno.. I could never get past Lazarus Long screwing the identical twins cloned from his DNA to give the character credit ever again. I love Heinlein, but I'd rather quote a character who doesn't sleep with his mother, and himself in a relatively quick order. Even Friday with the end message of 'no matter how smart, bad ass, or otherwise equipped a woman is, she won't see herself as complete or be happy until she's spawned.' was easier for me to swallow.
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Yeah.. I like the books with group marriage, still better then constant infidelity and incest of the L.L. books.
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Asherian wrote:I dunno.. I could never get past Lazarus Long screwing the identical twins cloned from his DNA to give the character credit ever again. I love Heinlein, but I'd rather quote a character who doesn't sleep with his mother, and himself in a relatively quick order. Even Friday with the end message of 'no matter how smart, bad ass, or otherwise equipped a woman is, she won't see herself as complete or be happy until she's spawned.' was easier for me to swallow.
Honestly, I thought that most of the sex in his later books felt tacked on. He showed that he could write incredible stories without them, but then discovered that Sex Sells with Stranger.... As for the incest/twincest thing going on with Lazarus, I never paid that much attention; I tend to skip over sex scenes because they bore me.

As per your issue with the ending message of Friday, I saw it more as expression of the genetic imperative than anything else. If somebody with superior genes does not pass them along, the entire species suffers. Heinlein was a strong proponent of survival of mankind, so it's not an unexpected message. That said, Friday is not on my list of books that I return to for enjoyment.

Finally, the assumption that just because one person has a couple of characteristics that you find incredibly disagreeable means that everything about them can be cast aside, I find that to be incredibly distasteful. It feels something akin to disregarding incredibly wise advice from a homeless person just because they smell bad and live on the streets. When you decide that someone cannot possibly teach you anything, you permanently cut off an avenue of learning. Besides, the Lazarus quotes are just Heinlein's personal aphorisms attributed to a character.
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Adblocked.

That Zoolander gif has seen more use than Tucker's mom.
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mountainmage wrote:Adblocked.

That Zoolander gif has seen more use than Tucker's mom.
Ah...Right. I haven't seen Zoolander, so ... yeah.
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Haven't seen...Zoolander? You lose my approval. All of it.
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You know what's really sad? I watched the Zoolander just so I could understand this reference.
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Frostbite wrote:Haven't seen...Zoolander? You lose my approval. All of it.
Yeah, mine too. Even I've seen Zoolander, and I rarely ever go out to the movies.
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I'm sorry Maury. I'm not a gymnast.
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I've seen bits and pieces...like the awesome love scene...but that's about it. I never got a chance.
Where I grew up, if my stepfather didn't approve of the movie, I didn't get a chance to see it...and we lived 40 kilometres out of town and I didn't have a car till I left home. Then, I just never found the motivation.

Since the shops are shut now I can't do anything, but to regain my honour, I shall buy Zoolander tomorrow on DVD and yes, watch it too.
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Honestly I really enjoyed Zoolander, if only for David Bowie's scene.

The thing with the computer was adorable beyond belief, and that tragic gasoline fight.
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And "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go," that song is an absolute classic.
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Zoolander and Anchorman are the only movies from that group of guys that I can stand.

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Responding to Ed about Heinlein. I find it hard to grok reading through Time enough for love and ignoring/skipping the sex scenes, the books chock full of it. Not to mention 3 separate cases of incest, sledge hammer style "Group marriage/casual sex is the future." Ectra. At least part of it is that sledge hammer like feel that gives me a problem with the rest of the book. Other books of his drive home All of the points you were bringing up, those were constants throughout his works. He just had Long put it in nice quotable format. Plus most of his "Sex Sells" period was referred to as "post stroke" Its was pretty much where he stopped caring how well a book sold because he was financially solid and no longer depending on the contracts with boy scouts of america and similar magazines to publish his work and pay him.

Citizen of the Galaxy has a lot of those morals, from a homeless/legless man, who manages to explain all this without being tripped by his own mother and making out with her while a younger version of himself sleeping in the back seat. I love Heinlein, greatly and much of my thought process is probably accreditable to his writings, but Lazarus Long is a creepy creepy old man.

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Glitter Vampires...
Not sure if this was discussed before, but WAY too lazy to look back and check.

But Twilight has Vampires that....glitter...in the sunlight?

If that isn't a way to call vampires gay, then I don't know what is.

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