ThatThereLazyGuy wrote:
JOY. Another anti-religious comic. Honestly, evolution has been pretty well proven, but this stuff is just... annoying.
I kind of feel the same way. On one hand, it can be annoying when all the technophile/nerd/rational types (if you understand the vague, broad demographic I'm referring to here) harp on the stupidity of creationists, when clearly the issue was settled, like, a hundred years ago. I mean, no one really takes that creationist stuff seriously, right? Except, there is actually a funded, politically motivated organization that is doing a pretty good job of subverting mainstream opinion through sophism. I don't think they actually have a chance of winning (because, they're like
actually wrong) but it does sometimes seem like a hurdle we have to clear before we can do awesome stuff.
It makes me wonder if people in the antebellum north were like "Guys, yeah slavery obviously sucks but can you just shut up about it already?"
Lethal Interjection wrote:And wrote:Guys. You're splitting hairs.
Nobody rejects evolution because of non-religious or existentialist or agnosticism about biological processes. There is no mainstream (or even, substantial non-mainstream) dissent about this. You can argue all you want, but meanwhile, in the real world, the only ones making an effort to reject evolution are the creationists, and this is ALWAYS a religious argument (Catholic, Young Earth or whatever: still religious and still creationist). So the criticism from Zach's comic very much applies.
And you lose your argument for italicizing 'nobody' and then going ahead and suggesting that there might be some in the next sentence. The rest of your argument then swirls round the bowl until it slips from all relevance.
He's essentially correct, and you riposte with more hair-splitting.