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Abuse

Postby astasia » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:33 am

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Postby ChooChooTrain » Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:36 pm

Is it normal to be abusive? To answer that question, we should observe man's actions. By his behavior, we learn his nature. If we look, we see men abusing, robbing, lying to, raping, and murdering each other. I think the obvious conclusion is that men are naturally selfish, evil creatures.

Thomas Hobbes said in Leviathan that, "The condition of Man...is a condition of Warre of every one against every one."
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Re: Abuse

Postby Neglected Shoe » Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:06 pm

"Someone didn't pay attention in religion class."
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Re: Abuse

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Re: Abuse

Postby Lethal Interjection » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:38 pm

I don't like moral absolutism. I actually went to a colloquium on this topic about a month ago. My old professor is writing a book on authority and was presenting a chapter of his book. It ultimately talked about Kant's view of authority, which is tied closely to moral absolutism. The problem is that moral absolutism does not work well with authority at all. This was particularly clear when discussion afterwards led to parental authority. If children need not be taught moral behaviour, then why does the family structure even exist? I do believe in some sense of absolute morality, that ultimately somewhere we do know some general rights and wrongs, but we need parental (or other applicable guardians) guidance and teaching to bring out this proper morality. And in the case of abuse, to often it is learned from the previous generation, so obviously the parental guidance has been extremely flawed in this respect.
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Re: Abuse

Postby ChooChooTrain » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:51 pm

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth." -Oscar Wilde
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Re: Abuse

Postby cheez.wiz » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:33 pm

Theses three actions are wrong under a context.

Taking something from someone is okay. Doing the same without that person's consent isn't.
Killing an animal for food is okay. Killing an animal (humans are animals too, like it or not) "just because" (fill in with your own reasons) isn't.
Having sex with someone is "gr8 akshully". Having sex with someone without their consent isn't the way we roll.

So theses actions are absolutely wrong in their extreme forms, that we designed by the words you used, even if they aren't inherently wrong in nature.
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Re: Abuse

Postby Neglected Shoe » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:02 pm

"Someone didn't pay attention in religion class."
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Re: Abuse

Postby smiley_cow » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:24 pm

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Re: Abuse

Postby Oldrac the Chitinous » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:16 pm

Police said they spent some time working out if they could charge the man with being armed with a weapon, as technically he was armed with part of a fish.
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Re: Abuse

Postby mountainmage » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:49 pm

I think abusive tendencies are inherent in some people, and that things like abusive parents and peer pressure aren't helping the matter.
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Re: Abuse

Postby ChooChooTrain » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:04 pm

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Re: Abuse

Postby astasia » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:40 pm

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Re: Abuse

Postby Oldrac the Chitinous » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:25 pm

Police said they spent some time working out if they could charge the man with being armed with a weapon, as technically he was armed with part of a fish.
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