[2017-12-08] Healthcare

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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby Astrogirl » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:38 pm

You noticed the countries with the more doctors have higher taxes?
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby JosieQ » Fri Aug 03, 2018 12:19 am

I'm late to the party here, but did I miss the part where everyone had a rebellion against the fact that there's a law requiring us to have healthcare?

Because I thought for sure that when that passed, years ago, we'd all rise up against our oppressors.

Everyone seemed to just take that in stride though. Like it was a good idea.

Did I just sleep through uprising, or something?
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby Astrogirl » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:13 pm

Oh yeah, rebel against joining all other industrialized nations regarding basic human decency.
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby NeatNit » Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:24 pm

Why is this thread still going?
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby Geekoid » Wed Aug 08, 2018 2:16 pm

JosieQ wrote:I'm late to the party here, but did I miss the part where everyone had a rebellion against the fact that there's a law requiring us to have healthcare?

Because I thought for sure that when that passed, years ago, we'd all rise up against our oppressors.

Everyone seemed to just take that in stride though. Like it was a good idea.

Did I just sleep through uprising, or something?




What? The congress passed a law requiring people to pay for health care.

in 1790 ships over 150 ton were mandated to carry medical supplies.

https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?c ... recNum=257

then in 1792 congress passed a law forcing men to a mandatory purchase if firearms.
https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?c ... recNum=394

in 1798 congress expanded the health care law so ship owner had to pay 20 cents, per month to the port. funds to be used for the healthcare of seaman. That cost was withheld form the sailors pay.

https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?c ... recNum=728


This sort of thing is, and always has been, part of America.

LPT: read a book.

You aren't being oppressed. Unless you are an immigrant.
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby JosieQ » Wed Aug 15, 2018 6:58 pm

Astrogirl wrote:Oh yeah, rebel against joining all other industrialized nations regarding basic human decency.


Requiring people, by law, to purchase a product is basic human decency?
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby Astrogirl » Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:18 pm

JosieQ wrote:
Astrogirl wrote:Oh yeah, rebel against joining all other industrialized nations regarding basic human decency.


Requiring people, by law, to purchase a product is basic human decency?

The problem is already that you consider healthcare to be a product.
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby JosieQ. » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:30 am

Insurance is a product. Pay attention.
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby JosieQ. » Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:08 pm

I'm sorry, I see that I originally used the word "healthcare" which is less precise than the "insurance" I am talking about.

What worries me now is that you took healthcare to mean HEALTHCARE, and you think that Americans are now under legal obligation to go to doctors when they are sick? I mean because if you're not talking about insurance, that's what healthcare is, getting care for your health. And you seem to be arguing for this idea, forced care? Surely I'm misunderstanding? (Side-note: Healthcare in the sense of going to doctors for treatment IS a business, it's a product.)

Anyway, the important thing is I'm talking about the fact that we are required by law to carry insurance, which is a violation of freedom.
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Re: [2017-12-08] Healthcare

Postby Astrogirl » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:25 pm

I see, you are arguing that health insurance companies should be abolished and healthcare should be paid for by taxes (like in the UK and Canadia). Yes, that's a good idea. In the US the slogan for this is "Medicare for all" as far as I am aware.

Are you also against mandatory car insurance? Being required to buy and install smoke detectors? Mandatory converter in your car?
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