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Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 5:47 am
by LordRetard
No. None of what you just said makes any sense.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:57 am
by AHMETxRock
Let me put it this way. You evil capitalist fat cats let your people starve and have no problem bombing civilian populations that never were any sort of threat nor harbored any actual opponents and keep entire countries below fucking basic human rights, occupying them and denying all involvement in overthrowing any organizations that have any sort of legit feelings of peace and betterment, instead putting warlords and puppet politicians in power because they can be motivated in a certain direction against a current enemy, even though they will just become your new enemy once you've won.

Meanwhile terror organizations are comprised of mostly young people who have never truly lived with the freedom and peace you claim they hate so much. They die in the hopes that the stirke against their foe may lead to the day when two more people will not die of starvation, or abuse from the oppressing soldiers, or a lack of medicine, or continued unprovoked warfare.

Stick your freedom flag up your butt, American, British, Canadian, whatever. You sit there and watch as these things are commited for a system in which the majority rules and decides upon what is right and wrong. There is no "evil" side, because all people have the inherent capacity to do both good and bad, and by painting one side as evil, we choose to paint them as an irredemable mass that can not be saved from their wrongdoing, and death is the only recourse for their souls.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:05 am
by Edminster
Man, apart from the invasions and reprisal, you've outlined exactly what's going on in the DPRK.

PS
A less Image way of saying it would be: "Your enemy is never a villain in his own eyes."

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 2:49 am
by AHMETxRock
That would be too easy.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:25 am
by LordRetard
The problem is you weren't saying that, Ahmet, you were talking about how people are evil even though they don't think they're evil. Now you're saying there's no evil side, and that's what I've always been saying. Of course no one thinks they're evil, but I'm saying that just because someone else thinks that they're evil doesn't make them evil either. You can't think that way because morality isn't absolute (or, if it is, then that goes against what you were saying).

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:29 pm
by AHMETxRock
No, I wasn't saying they were evil even if they think they weren't. I said they don't think they are evil, even if they are. It's the exact opposite.

And there is an evil side, like hitler, although maybe not his foot troops.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:56 pm
by Oldrac the Chitinous
I was going to say we need a Godwin-style law for when it looks like people are going to start talking about moral relativism, but we don't in this particular case, since the original applies just as well.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:00 pm
by Cirtur
Man I love Godwin's law.

Obviously I don't love that it happens, but I love that other people recognise it.

BASK IN MY UNAMBIGUOUS APPRECIATION OF SOMETHING

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:33 am
by AHMETxRock
No, I mentioned that because it hurts him to see his Holocaust-denying buddy on the forum use it against him.
It hurts REAL deep man. Like a vagina or something.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:56 am
by LordRetard
I just don't really believe in evil, man. It's just people.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:36 am
by Oldrac the Chitinous
LordRetard wrote:I just don't really believe in evil, man. It's just people.
Well put.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:57 am
by Euclidthegreek
Oldrac the Chitinous wrote:
LordRetard wrote:I just don't really believe in evil, man. It's just people.
Well put.
Grrrr. How I hate those accursed "people".

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:45 am
by Kimra
Kill them all. It's for the greater good.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:55 am
by Edminster
The greater good.

Re: Nightwatch Series

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:56 am
by Kimra
As I said.