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Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:17 pm
by Frostbite
Maddox.

The Alphabet of Manliness is the bible of men. Women can have the old bible. Too bad we won't let them learn how to read.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:58 am
by LordRetard
Rainbow wrote:Just read Bartleby and a bunch of Melville's poems. I dig the guy, for rillz.
Bartleby's a really good story but I haven't read his poetry yet (I'm not much of a poetry kind of guy...anymore). Have you read Moby-Dick yet? If you have the time it's worth it.
Frostbite wrote:Maddox.

The Alphabet of Manliness is the bible of men. Women can have the old bible. Too bad we won't let them learn how to read.
Frostbite totally just curb-stomped the women's rights movement.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:07 am
by Cirtur
Women only have rights because men started a war too big for just us.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:51 pm
by Lethal Interjection
Cirtur wrote:Women only have rights because men started a war too big for just us.
Sadly, this is pretty accurate to the Canadian women's suffrage movement.
"Hey, lets allow the wives of soldiers to vote because they'll vote for us to support their husbands! Ooh, and we'll promise them entrenched voting rights to be established when things die down! That'll do the trick! We'll win this election for sure!"

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:12 pm
by Sahan
Western Australia did it to prevent the migrants from overseas/interstate having too much voting power during the gold rush, when they made up a significant percentage of the population. so it was more a case of xenophobia for us.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:48 pm
by smiley_cow
Lethal Interjection wrote:
Cirtur wrote:Women only have rights because men started a war too big for just us.
Sadly, this is pretty accurate to the Canadian women's suffrage movement.
"Hey, lets allow the wives of soldiers to vote because they'll vote for us to support their husbands! Ooh, and we'll promise them entrenched voting rights to be established when things die down! That'll do the trick! We'll win this election for sure!"
That and, aw crap, all the men are off fighting this stupid war. Now who'll do all the jobs that we need the men to do? Women? Which was then followed by the women thinking, wait a second, we''re capable of doing these jobs too! :)

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 10:38 pm
by LordRetard
Lethal Interjection wrote:Sadly, this is pretty accurate to the Canadian women's suffrage movement.
"Hey, lets allow the wives of soldiers to vote because they'll vote for us to support their husbands! Ooh, and we'll promise them entrenched voting rights to be established when things die down! That'll do the trick! We'll win this election for sure!"
The American Civil War was pretty similar in some respects. The war was started over a lot of different issues but slavery didn't enter into the equation until the north decided that they could get black people to support them and fight for them by saying that they could go free. Of course that didn't actually happen throughout the States until much later.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2009 11:07 pm
by Cirtur
Civil war was 1865? Slavery was already illegal in the British Empire before then, and not even with ulterior motives.

Slavery has also been illegal in England since AD 1111*. Looks like we win guys.

*Just looked it up on Wikipedia but cannot remember the exact date. John, you are a fool.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:05 am
by LordRetard
Take THAT, AmeriKKKa!

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:45 am
by Euclidthegreek
LordRetard wrote:
Lethal Interjection wrote:Sadly, this is pretty accurate to the Canadian women's suffrage movement.
"Hey, lets allow the wives of soldiers to vote because they'll vote for us to support their husbands! Ooh, and we'll promise them entrenched voting rights to be established when things die down! That'll do the trick! We'll win this election for sure!"
The American Civil War was pretty similar in some respects. The war was started over a lot of different issues but slavery didn't enter into the equation until the north decided that they could get black people to support them and fight for them by saying that they could go free. Of course that didn't actually happen throughout the States until much later.
One of the issues that started the American Civil war was the debate about whether to allow slavery into the territories. The Confederacy was created in part due to the Southern states' anger about the imbalance between slave and no-slave states (and the under representation of pro-slavery guys in congress). The Civil war was not about "Freeing the Slaves", but slavery certainly entered in the equation.
Cirtur wrote:Civil war was 1865? Slavery was already illegal in the British Empire before then, and not even with ulterior motives.

Slavery has also been illegal in England since AD 1111*. Looks like we win guys.

*Just looked it up on Wikipedia but cannot remember the exact date. John, you are a fool.
It ended in 1865. I thought slavery was abolished in England in the late 18th/early 19th century. I know it was abolished by the Crown in the U.S. colonies in the 1770's in attempt to promote revolt by slaves against the revolutionaries, and to get slaves to fight for the Crown. The Americans did not listen and did not completely abolish slavery until 1865.*

* Massachusets** abolished it in the 1890's. Though the Emancipation Proclaimation was issued in 1863, it only applied to the rebel states and so slavery was abolished last after the war ended, in the slave-holding states that had supported the Union (such as Maryland and Delaware).
** Wow, I can't even spell that.***
*** Unless spellcheck just can't recognize the word.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:16 am
by Frostbite
Slavery wasn't completely abolished in 1865, what kind of dream world do you live in? It wasn't fully eradicated until well after the civil war had ended, even then it still more or less existed for a long ass time after that, by other names though.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:45 am
by LordRetard
Euclidthegreek wrote:One of the issues that started the American Civil war was the debate about whether to allow slavery into the territories. The Confederacy was created in part due to the Southern states' anger about the imbalance between slave and no-slave states (and the under representation of pro-slavery guys in congress). The Civil war was not about "Freeing the Slaves", but slavery certainly entered in the equation.
Hmm, I guess I can't really justify what I said then. Never mind. I still question the motivation for freeing slaves, especially since the civil war definitely did not free them immediately.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 12:42 pm
by Cirtur
You gotta admit though, slaves would be pretty useful around the house. Like robots but less likely to kill you with their mechanical arms*. The word robot also comes from the Slavic for slave.

*Because slaves don't have mechanical arms.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:05 pm
by Apocalyptus
Cirtur wrote: The word robot also comes from the Slavic for slave.
I was going to say WRONG it is actually Czech, but then looked it up and realised it means slave in both Czech and many Slavic languages so we are both right.
I almost made myself look quite foolish! Dodged a bullet right there.

Re: Who's your favorite author?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:13 pm
by Cirtur
And when we're both right it's DOUBLE the fun.